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Reinhard,
Let's not mix two different things:
1) programming competence,
2) knowledge of a particular language.
1) is much harder to acquire than 2).
Any student who's capable of learning to program in Oberon/Component Pascal well enough, will learn the syntax of C in no time.
And if a student is not smart enough to learn the syntax of C after learning to program in Oberon/Component Pascal, s/he should better not touch C (or Java, not to say C++) at all, ever.
It is significantly easier to develop complex stuff e.g. in CP and then port it to C/C++ in a more or less mechanical fashion than to develop in C from scratch.
There are plenty of examples, including my own experience (e.g. the CP vs C++ comparison I reported in this list recently).
There are programmers in Moscow who do just that without mentioning to their Western (actually, German) clients that they only port to C++ fully debugged programs written in Pascal.
Students who learned to program that way will have a competitive advantage -- irrespective of which (procedural) language they will have to do with.
The only problem is, whether the education system rewards teachers who offer that kind of competitive advantage to their students.
If it does not, e.g. in Germany, then all the programming industry will eventually move to other countries where it does.
Lastly, on money vs competitive advantage.
Recall the mammals who had been surviving in the era of dinosaurs for millions of years before they got a fair chance to demonstrate their competitive advantages.
(They had in fact been demonstrating them during the dinosaurs' reign, only the dinosaurs did not pay attention.)
The dinosaurs' power ('money') helped them (the dinosaurs) for quite a while -- but did not save them in the end.
Cheers
Fyodor.Tkachov{([at]})nowhere.xy
> Hello Woitek,
> I appreciate your fervour in pounding on OMS, but I believe you are pounding the wrong guy.
> Economic success or failure of a development tool like BlackBox is, in my opinion, not a question of marketing skills, but of marketing power, which is money in the first place.
> I myself try to sell BlackBox, as a developer, to my customers.
> But they want me to use the tools used by the majority. They would not even listen!
> Teachers from universities and Fachhochschule (Germany) tell me they cannot resist the pressure from industry to teach C, C++, JAVA instead of better alternatives.
> Ask Stan Warford, for example.
> Look at the personnel advertisements, which skills are being asked for? C, C++, and JAVA!
>
> What does that mean? How many millions of bucks would be necessary to keep up with that pressure?
> Its all about money, not ideas. OMS is not M$, neither SUN who pays that JAVA hog and gives it away for free.
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