RE: BlackBox guide for Dummies: Proposition

From: Wijck, Bart van <"Wijck,>
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 14:05:15 +0100

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Rex,

Agreed. I should be able to deliver in the BlackBox editor. Only issue is
diagrams (but I may well be able paste those in from word or visio).

Regards, Bart

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From: Douglas G. Danforth [mailto:danforth{([at]})nowhere.xy
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 6:14 PM
To: Wijck, Bart van
Cc: 'Rex Couture'; blackbox{([at]})nowhere.xy
Subject: Re: BlackBox guide for Dummies: Proposition


Bart,

Might I suggest that you be the lead but have this be a group
development where you write and we edit, actually give you back modified
versions?

Might I also suggest that we (the editiors) use some standard editing
notation such as marking in red passages to be removed and writing in
blue passages to be added?

This assumes that the document is written with the BlackBox editor.
Just a suggestion.

-Doug

Wijck, Bart van wrote:
> All,
>
> Thanks Rex (perhaps we'll woe you back a little) and thanks to all those
who
> have given positive reactions and suggestions.
>
> Just to be a little careful as to the general expectations. I do not want
to
> start with the wrong expectations. This proposed guide is not going to be
a
> catch-all, i.e. help explain everything, be a fine beginners guide,
provide
> good patterns, provide the big motivation for BlackBox, explain software
> engineering detail, deliver Christmas presents etc. And provide that in a
> way that meets everyones idea how to present all this.
>
> What I will attempt to do is to make something of a start on the things
> mentioned above, apart from the Christmas presents. I hope it will be a
> sufficient point of departure for the community to really build upon.
>
> Just a few matters I want to emphasize here.
> 1. It will explicitely address beginners. Prof. Warfords & Brett Hallett's
> efforts are real gems here, but there's a lot which is not covered. So
> beginners are left floundering after that, which in the long term is the
> death knell for the whole BlackBox project.
>
> 2. It will explicitly address the issue of "Why BlackBox". It's clear
> BlackBox is not a general corporate (Big Business) alternative compared to
> Java, .Net or the 4GL market. However compared to those it is precisely
very
> small, clear, succinct and for that you get something surprisingly
powerful
> indeed. Interesting in principle for individuals, colleges, teachers and
> small companies which do not want to get into heavyweight software
> development. In summary interesting, but it needs some precise
positioning.
> As this is my job generally, I'll have a stab at this.
>
> As far as delivery is concerned I have decided to deliver in parts. This
> because I found out that it is a big job, even at a general level. And it
> will make it easier for the community to review and amend. Expect the
first
> chapter: "Why BlackBox" within roughly 2 weeks.
>
> For those who suggested the Waki route. I am just too busy to add another
> set of variables (learning the Waki editor etc.). Let me first have my
> general stab at things using old fashioned Word etc.). Then this may well
be
> the route to go.
>
> Regards, Bart

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