Re: [BLACKBOX] BlackBox after Oms - Forum

From: Oleg N. Cher <"Oleg>
Date: Thu, 22 Aug 2013 01:43:19 +0300

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Dear BlackBox Community,

Remember I wrote about centralization of BB development but
decentralization therein the center can continue to work, and the work
was not based on one person, and wholly dependent on him - to not to
create problems if the person ceases the BB activity. To be independent
from anyone to continue the project.

Ivan have proposed Redmine and Git repository. Why it is good?

1) Git is a practically best system of version control. Every developer
even if not use Git at least must know it, I think.
2) At Redmine Ivan is implementing the showing of the differences
between the BlackBox's .odc binary sources. This is a unique opportunity
that is not available anywhere else.
3) Every developer has full cloned copy of the:

   a) actual distribution of BB (and easy possibility to actualize it by
typing "git pull").
   b) list of all changes (commit history)
   ?) a possibility to start his own BB assembly from his own copy of
the repository, if he wants. (But I agree with Robert - too many of BB
assemblies is evil)

It is not ideal, but well "decentralisation" of development, at least in
role of first step.

I think, only people who used BB actively can continue the development
of BB to solve their problems.
But there is another way. Is there anybody who want to see in BB a
feature needed by him and ready to pay for implementation the feature
and support?
We can do development in such way. In other case I'm in doubts about BB
future... a lot of fixes, adding some little features, nothing else.

Who agrees with me?

But if no interest to develop and use BB with benefits - better to use
Java (reluctantly).

;-)

I do not see myself as active BB developer, but I can be an admin of the
forum, if it is needed.

Reply to Robert's "Finally I would like a clearer explanation of the
relationships between

- OberonCore
- Ivan's Gitorious project
- Ivan's Redmine initiative
- Oleg's zx.oberon2.ru/forum offer
- Any other organisations I don't even know about.

We want to understand if any of these already provide the forum we (I ?)
want, or if something new and free from history is better."


I answer about relationships between zx.oberon2.ru/forum and other. The
forum is fully non-profit, independent from other Oberon resources and
maintained by a few Oberon enthusiasts (including me). Founder of the
forum is me. First (but not only one) language is Russian.

If someone here needs an Oberon forum and would like to be the forum's
user, please write me privately what is obstacle of the registration at
zx.oberon2.ru/forum ? I ask this because I am willing to consider any
proposals for the development of the forum and increase its usefulness -
do more internalization (de facto englishication), etc. I'll be waiting
for your suggestions.

Maybe somebody here wants to propose me the creation of a new forum for
the needs proposed by Robert, I would consider - but we need to buy
hosting first. And choose an engine. I would prefer BHP-BB.

-- 
Oleg N. Cher
VEDAsoft Oberon Club
http://zx.oberon2.ru
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