Re: [BLACKBOX] Ofront released as open source under a FreeBSD-style license

From: [at]} <Wojtek>
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:16:20 -0400

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Software without documentation is not useable. I learned it the hard way
many times over.

Wojtek


> I think I've sent you an Ofront which generates code for ucLinux/Blackfin.
> Later I was able to run it right on the board.
> Am... probably I must document the whole process in details and send you
> the comprehensive manual.
>
> Norayr
>
> On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:21:16 -0400
> Wojtek Skulski <skulski{([at]})nowhere.xy
>
>> Oleg:
>>
>> I sent you the PDF. I am wondering whether ofront could be used to add
>> modular structure to embedded programming under uClinux. FYI, Linux has
>> something named "kernel modules" that look like they have been inspired
>> by Modula/Oberon, but the machanics of creating these is ugly. There is
>> no type safety, just a bunch of #defines and other such usual kind of
>> ugliness. I am wondering whether ofront could be used to add modules to
>> Linux kernel programming, but in a rigorous way.
>>
>> I stress "kernel" rather than user space. Under the hood Linux kernel is
>> similar to Oberon System. That is, Linux kernel is a cooperative
>> environment without memory protection (for those who did not know). Not
>> just uClinux, where you could perhaps expect lack of memory protection.
>> In
>> general, Linux kernel is not protected inside. So it is just like Oberon
>> System, but all written in the unsafe language.
>>
>> I am wondering whether ofront could be used to remedy the unsafe Linux
>> kernel programming.
>>
>> Perhaps it is a topic for a doctoral dissertation. It is a large topic,
>> I
>> think. In principle the payoff could be substantial because unsafe
>> programming is probably one of the reasons enabling internet attacks. I
>> do
>> not know, but I suppose it may be so. Making Linux a bit safer could
>> perhaps be important.
>>
>> Wojtek
>>
>> > Dear Wojtek,
>> >
>> > Of course, I'm interested to see the manual.
>> > Have you confirm that usual desktop computer (or laptop) of Intel 386
>> > architecture (or any useful free emulator under it) with runned
>> uClinux
>> > is enough for running the examples? I've not any microcontroller for
>> it.
>> > :)
>> >
>> > By the way, mr. Josef Templ has already designed Ofront for Linux
>> > console. I think, it's not hard to modify this Ofront for uClinux.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Oleg N. Cher
>> > http://zx.oberon2.ru/
>>
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