Hello Norayr:
I was sorting through the BB list posts on Ofront topics, and I know you and I have corresponded a bit on Ofront, so I thought I'd ask you this question: Have you ever done an Ofront project that targets Win32 or .NET? I am looking seriously at Ofront for several projects, and I thought perhaps you might know more about the Win32 targeting. Josef Templ seems to have concentrated on Unix and its variants. He has suggested POSIX bindings and trying to get that to work with VC++.
Right now, I am in the process of attempting to collect the various .par files and runtimes that support a variety of targets, so that I can get a picture of just how wide a target population I can address with Ofront. If you have anything to offer in the way of commentary on this, I am quite interested to hear.
Thanks,
Mike
Michael A. McGaw, Ph.D.
McGaw Technology, Inc.
P.O. 26268
Fairview Park, Ohio 44126
(216) 521-3490
www.mcgawtech.com
From: Norayr Chilingarian <norayr{([at]})nowhere.xy
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Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: [BLACKBOX] Ofront released as open source under a FreeBSD-style license
I think I've sent you an Ofront which generates code for ucLinux/Blackfin.
Later I was able to run it right on the board.
Am... probably I must document the whole process in details and send you the comprehensive manual.
Norayr
On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 12:21:16 -0400
Wojtek Skulski <skulski{([at]})nowhere.xy
> Oleg:
>
> I sent you the PDF. I am wondering whether ofront could be used to add
> modular structure to embedded programming under uClinux. FYI, Linux has
> something named "kernel modules" that look like they have been inspired
> by Modula/Oberon, but the machanics of creating these is ugly. There is
> no type safety, just a bunch of #defines and other such usual kind of
> ugliness. I am wondering whether ofront could be used to add modules to
> Linux kernel programming, but in a rigorous way.
>
> I stress "kernel" rather than user space. Under the hood Linux kernel is
> similar to Oberon System. That is, Linux kernel is a cooperative
> environment without memory protection (for those who did not know). Not
> just uClinux, where you could perhaps expect lack of memory protection. In
> general, Linux kernel is not protected inside. So it is just like Oberon
> System, but all written in the unsafe language.
>
> I am wondering whether ofront could be used to remedy the unsafe Linux
> kernel programming.
>
> Perhaps it is a topic for a doctoral dissertation. It is a large topic, I
> think. In principle the payoff could be substantial because unsafe
> programming is probably one of the reasons enabling internet attacks. I do
> not know, but I suppose it may be so. Making Linux a bit safer could
> perhaps be important.
>
> Wojtek
>
> > Dear Wojtek,
> >
> > Of course, I'm interested to see the manual.
> > Have you confirm that usual desktop computer (or laptop) of Intel 386
> > architecture (or any useful free emulator under it) with runned uClinux
> > is enough for running the examples? I've not any microcontroller for it.
> > :)
> >
> > By the way, mr. Josef Templ has already designed Ofront for Linux
> > console. I think, it's not hard to modify this Ofront for uClinux.
> >
> > --
> > Oleg N. Cher
> > http://zx.oberon2.ru/
>
>
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