Re: [BLACKBOX] Compile plain text files

From: [at]} <Frank>
Date: Mon, 9 May 2011 00:54:57 -0300

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On 05/08/2011 04:26 PM, Wojtek Skulski wrote:
> On Sun, 8 May 2011, Frank Hrebabetzky wrote:
>
>> You know what? It is Emacs!
>
> Excuse me, what is Emacs? I never heard of it. Could you please explain?

It is an electronic psychatrist. "Emacs" means Eliza Made Available
through Cables and Sockets.
>
>> And not just that: I use gcc.
>
> Is gcc a compiler of a "cc" language? What is "g"? A CC-compiler should
> be named ccc, logically speaking.

Holds only in the case of a strict worldwide rule about naming and
abbrevating things and if this rule would be your one.
>
>> And gdb. Great tools.
>
> I never used gdb. Somehow, when I see a bug, I start thinking what could
> have gone wrong. After a short while I usually find the bug. But I heard
> that some people used gdb. Maybe it is great.
>
> I also heard that Linus does not use gdb, what explains why gdb is so
> hard to apply to the Linux kernel.

Then you don't need the Component Builder's trap viewer either. For
those who use things like that, debugging is a little easier if you
don't have to place HALT statements in the code, but can step through
without recompiling. By the way, I don't dig into the kernel, just
scratching the surface.

>> The only problem is that gcc doesn't support the best language ever -
>> Oberon / Component Pascal.
>
> gcc by design does not support other languages. I have heard that gcc
> developers swear that if someone adds some sensible language to the gcc,
> they will break it in the next gcc release. We should not underestimate
> the militancy of the gcc afficionados.
>
> However, there is O2CC out there. I heard it works pretty well.

The developer of OO2C left the boat years ago. The maintainer is a very
helpful and skilled man, but the project seems to be a one man show with
an extremely small user group.
>
>> And that the developers of this language have a long tradition
>> to tie it neatly to special operating systems
>
> Nothing wrong with proving the language by writing an operating system.
> The C language was proven the same way.
>
Nothing wrong with proving. But if the operating system is the only
option to use the language (as it has been the case for several years
with Oberon) and if this OS is incompatible with all the software
outside then it is just a toy (and a research project for their
developers of course).

>> strange user interfaces,
>
> BlackBox interface is standard Windows. What is strange about it?

I was speaking about Oberon and Component Pascal. The user interface of
  Oberon (OS) was different. With BlackBox it isn't the user interface
but the application programming interface (e.g. Files, Stores) which
requires some time to get used.

>> so nobody uses it.
>
> One person is using it. Namely myself. So "nobody" is not strictly true.

No comment.

>> This way I can
>> - Use my editor
>> - use the diff tool of version control systems
>
> I heard that svn can deal with any files. So perhaps it can deal with
> .odc as well? I never used svn, though.

My concern are the comparison tools which highlight the differences of
two versions in a text viewer.

>> - switch to cpdev easily.
>
> What is cpdev?

A command line compiler for component pascal.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/cp-dev

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Frank Hrebabetzky		+55 / 48 / 3235 1106
Florianopolis, Brazil
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