- Freestanding Blackbox applications?

From: Bob Walkden <"Bob>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 08:05:54 +0100

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: blackbox{([at]})nowhere.xy
> Behalf Of Douglas G. Danforth
> Sent: 19 May 2006 02:52
> To: BlackBox Mailing List
> Subject: [BlackBox] - Freestanding Blackbox applications?
>
> Bob Walkden wrote:
> > 'Such people' have to make a living. I have been one of
> these people,
> > and now I'm one of the bosses. We have 80 developers
> working for us.
> > If we introduced BB, much as I'd like to, we would have to find or
> > train 80 BB developers who would also be prepared to maintain the
> > legacy software, and who would not be able to find another BB job
> > anywhere. It's not going to happen. This sort of thing

> needs a lot of
> > critical mass and BB has missed the boat, until Microsoft decide to
> > adopt it. When do you think that will be? The best that we can hope
> > for is that enough Wirthians enter Microsoft Research to
> spread the spirit of Oberon from within.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> What language(s) are you using and what is the software domain?
> Your email has web-options.com so I assume you are web oriented.
> Is that correct? Do you do any standalone application
> development that runs on the desktop?
>
> -Doug Danforth

Hi,

my domain name is no longer connected to my work. I used to be a freelance
analyst working through my own limited company which was called Web-Options
Ltd. I bought the name of the shelf, I did not invent it. It was a lucky
coincidence that the name was available at the time. I am now a wage slave,
but I have kept the domain name for my own use.

The company I work for now is in the financial sector. We provide certain
financial services to other companies, and we have developed an application
to support that. The application is indeed web-based, written in a mixture
of ASP, .Net, VB and C#, with a SQL Server back end. We do not provide a
standalone desktop application.

In my personal programming I use Blackbox and Native Oberon to keep myself
sane, and so that I can understand the way new technology works (or should
work).

--
Regards,
 Bob 
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