- Supporting BlackBox

From: Bob Walkden <"Bob>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 21:41:18 +0100

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Thankyou - that is very interesting.

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Regards,
 Bob 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blackbox{([at]})nowhere.xy> Behalf Of F.V.Tkachov
> Sent: 19 May 2006 15:34
> To: BlackBox Mailing List
> Subject: [BlackBox] - Supporting BlackBox
> 
> 
> Hello Everyone!
> 
> I owe this community an update on the evolutions around 
> BlackBox in the Russian educational community.
> 
> In the Fall of 2002, a systematic effort was started to 
> promulgate BlackBox as *the* platform for introductory 
> programming courses (senior high school, junior university 
> levels) -- the so-called Informatika-21 project which I 
> reported about at JMLC'2003. It helped form a substantial 
> community that keeps growing.
> 
> There is a strong tradition of using Pascal in the Russian 
> education system and Delphi in the industry (and Modula-2 in 
> the aerospace industry; see A.Koltashev's talk at JMLC'2003), 
> so BB offers a natural upgrade path. 
> Plus, there is a not insignificant barrier (party remnants of 
> the Iron curtain, partly an insufficient knowledge of 
> English, etc.) against the "bad" influences (although those 
> are felt, of course).
> 
> An important event within the project was N.Wirth and 
> J.Gutknecht's journey to Russia in the Fall of 2005, more 
> about it below.
> 
> A (growing) number of teachers are teaching with Component 
> Pascal and BlackBox already.
> For instance, a course "Introduction into modern programming" 
> at an elite theoretical chair of the physics dept. of the 
> (Lomonosov) Moscow State University. The course targets 
> students starting first year. Those who attended the first 
> edition (Spring 2001) are already sending back a most 
> positive feedback (it took them a while to fully appreciate 
> the value of what they got through that course -- but now I 
> can simply quote their reports to the new attendees). The 
> course is currently positioned as an "elite course for elite 
> students".
> 
> An important effort is at the city of Orel
> (http://blackbox.metasystems.ru) where a young company 
> switched to BB (quite typically: they started looking at 
> alternatives to Delphi, tried 
> C++, but then learned about BB through Informatika-21 and 
> decided to go
> with it). They are supporting local courses based on BB at a 
> lyceum and the Orel State University. They support a growing 
> on-line forum (http://blackbox.metasystems.ru/forum).
> They also support versions of BlackBox with a full support 
> for Cyrillic characters -- and it is likely that a Unicode 
> version of BlackBox will come out of that community soon 
> enough (Ominc promised their support).
> 
> Another example: an entire Vitebsk Region in Belorussia is 
> switching to BlackBox for high-school courses (12-17 year 
> olds) -- they have a formal 4-year plan to that effect. 
> ("Region" is a major administrative division inherited from the USSR.)
> 
> I should mention a construction-engineering-oriented software 
> company in Central Asia (Kyrgystan + Kazahstan) working with 
> BB (CPC will soon receive their AutoCAD-related contribution).
> 
> About the Wirth and Gutknecht's journey across Russia:
> They visited (not counting the tourist attraction Suzdal 
> etc.) S-Petersburg, Moscow, Nizhni Novgorod.
> Then Wirth (in my company) visited Yekaterinburg in the Urals 
> and Novosibirsk and Tomsk in Western Siberia.
> This second part was funded through participants of the 
> Informatika-21 project in the Tomsk Region (territory-wise, 
> larger than France or Germany, includes the oil fields of 
> YUKOS and the biggest-in-the-world Vasyugan wetlands [~1000 
> sq.km. of impassable bog]).
> 
> In S-Petersburg, Wirth was awarded an honorary doctor degree 
> (the last day of the tour in Moscow was such a mess that the 
> black mantle had to be brought to Zurich separately -- which 
> I did a week ago).
> 
> Along the way, public lectures and "round table discussions" 
> with teachers were held.
> The public lectures were given to packed audiences (e.g. in 
> Moscow, it was the [famous in Russia] Polytechnical Museum; 
> in Tomsk, the biggest local theatre).
> 
> The "round tables" were typically 2-hr long affairs, with 
> Wirth giving a lecture about Oberon and IT education, 
> followed by my demo of a version of BB for Russian schools -- 
> with Russian menus, compiler messages, etc [I know it should 
> be better integrated with CPC components...].
> They took place in S.Petersburg, Yekaterinburg, Novosibirsk, 
> Tomsk and were attended by a total of ~350 teachers. No less 
> than 200 CD's with BlackBox and related materials were distributed.
> As a direct result, two formerly Pascal-based textbooks are 
> being converted to Component Pascal, as well as a new book of 
> problems -- all at the Tomsk University (the oldest in the 
> Urals+Siberia).
> 
> The tour was widely covered in the regional media: e.g. in 
> Yekaterinburg Wirth's lecture at the local university was 
> covered in the news by four TV channels and in two 
> "analytical" programs. (Niklaus and myself were lucky to 
> watch one news report while taking "banya" (~sauna) in the house of my
> cousin.)
> 
> Also take a look at Wirth's Novosibirsk interview to a (the) 
> leading analytical weekly: 
> http://www.inr.ac.ru/~info21/texts/2005-10-Expert/final.pdf
> 
> The ultimate purpose would be to make BlackBox a unified 
> standard platform for all introductory programming courses, 
> to be sanctified by the Ministry of Education. That's still a 
> long shot -- but some recent developments increase our optimism.
> 
> Anyway, the progress is obvious. In the mean time I am giving 
> talks at all sorts of teachers' conferences -- the next, 
> important one in Novosibirsk in the end of June, 2006.
> 
> I may add that the effort of organizing this whole bloody 
> thing (including interpreting at all these lectures and 
> "round tables") cost me two month to recover.
> 
> Last comment: a while ago the issue of programming 
> competitions was discussed on this list, and I had many 
> contacts with the people involved over the last year or two. 
> Right now it does not seem to be a high-ROI issue, compared 
> with other useful things that can be done.
> 
> And the very last observation:
> it looks like the mindshare of Oberon/Component Pascal is 
> rather greater than its actual penetration in the industry. 
> This means there is a fair number of experts who are willing 
> to give it a try if an opportunity presents itself (it's a 
> little like an overheated water). And we know how 
> unpredictable life is, especially in IT.
> Especially that the law "complexity=vulnerability" is as big 
> a law as energy conservation -- even if it applies to 
> somewhat less rigidly deterministic systems. I would not be 
> surprised if interesting things suddently burst to the surface.
> 
> That's it for now. Back to neutrino mass and optimal 
> parameter estimation ...
> 
> cheers
> f
> 
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