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My english is poor and also my knowgement about every topic here.
So you may read this text very carefully because WILL contain huge
errors, mistake, misconceptions and whatsnot. Also will include some
actual data and related info that i want to spread to fight minor
misconceptions here and there. I really dont love Microsoft, and dont
really "want" .NET but all people here are coders and welll.. .NET/XML
is a tool, so its interesting to know why, where, how, what... about
that topic.
For more accurate info, please google for it.
You can safetly ignore this mail, but not XML, and maybe not .NET
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Hi!
danforth{([at]})nowhere.xy
>> Rex Couture wrote:
>>
>> Speaking as a luddite, what the heck is .NET anyway? Is it just
>> another M$ layer of complexity to learn, is it a simple, elegant way to
>> use an IDE including debugger with Oberon, an easy way to do
>> mixed-language programming, a way to further the M$ monopoly, a way to use
>> the Internet as a disk drive or what? The name doesn't tell me much, and
>> I can't find a nonobfuscated explanation. Perhaps someone can enlighten
>> me.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Rex Couture
>
Hello Rex.
.NET is a framework, that include .NET alike langs, all commong langs
"revamped" to a new .NET compatible version. These langs compile to a
intermedium lang that is executed by a virtual machine.
The other 50% of .NET is a set of librarys that ALL langs use. So you
have the exact same library available under C++ and a "pascal-alike"
lang (that similar of Borland efforts with Delphi and Builder). You are
free yo choice whatever the "lite" lang you want ...OR.. you can include
.OBJ from whatever you want in a not-managed way. You will loss some
interesting features, but will still work.
YES. Microsoft shell books, and use complexity has the chine wall to
stop others to use his stuff. But looks like you can use that technology
in a incrementaly way. Also you have open source efforts to support that
DotGNU (C#,etc.. ) and mono (C#, Basic, the CLR, libs, etc ...)
Also Microsoft is triing to effort the Wisiwig coding. A step beyond
Visual Basic ide. You design interfaces has a mixture of active-x
components, html forms, and whats not. But this effort will fail
miserabilly, I think. Anyway the Visual Studio tool is nice.
>
> I can't answer that but note that from the microsoft web site we find
>
Hello Dan.
> ".NET technology enables the creation and use of XML-based applications,
> processes, and websites"
>
> So I answer your question with a question. Why XML? Why a markup
> language?
>
XML encapsulate data and include tools to detect invalids containers.
Also include a rich set of features. XML is a set of "new" interesting
technologies. Also a buzzword, I admit. But is true usefull.
Looks like document formats, database exports, savegames, web info for
apps, etc.. will use XML.
Has a nice feature, most langs have a strong free XML library
implementation, that looks and use equal for all arquitectures and
langs. Learn once, use everywhere. This is rational.
> To me markup languages have always been a step backwards.
?
> Its a way of
> forcing syntax based thinking on word processing whereas one 'should' be
> using direct visualization of text and image, WYSIWYG.
??
ML can mark data, not only render info. So you can use XML to transport
RNA data from a computer to other computer in a *fixed* text format,
that will work with a everywhere available libXML library. You can run
"validate" tools to ensure the file is not corrupt and is well written.
And you can write with perl, sed, whatever.. tools to scan these files
to extract data, do some statistic,.. .etc... Looks like handy to me.
>
> I don't want to 'compile' my documents, e.g. LaTex and XML. I want to
> 'compose' my documents via cut and paste.
Whatever the user see dont affect whatever the coder will use. User can
see fonts and words, and the coder save marked paragraph, regions,
vectorial info, whatever... If you are a user, its not your problem how
data is save/restore. Of course, a poweruser can use ML for expert
printers use. MathML can be usefull to push a correct formula into a
Math book. Real ink and word documents is a pooor way to transport this
tipe of data with precission.
>
> Slim binaries and applets are just fine for animated objects.
??
> Those
> reside within the domain of 'programming'.
:D
> Their integration with text
> can be done simply (e.g. Sisyphus in the Oberon system).
>
> So I also ask. What is .NET and are we any better with it?
>
> -Doug
>
Java looks like shit to me, but also looks that can be very usefull for
banks and other people that actually use COBOL.
.NET is cheap than J2EE servers.
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