----boundary-LibPST-iamunique-1278081781_-_-
Content-type: text/plain
Brahe is a followup on Kepler, that used to be a tool for composing
diagrams under Oberon System. I think Kepler was developed by Josef Templ
for N.Wirth, who used it to draw diagrams and flowcharts in his books on
compilers and digital electronics. I used Kepler quite a bit and it was
really nice as a tool. It was definitely not a M$-style product with
many features, but it was convenient and up to the task. I never used
Brahe, but I would assume it too can be a useful tool if it is similar
to Kepler.
Hope this helps,
W.
> I'm not really sure what Visio is, but ...
>
> Have you looked at / tried Brahe?
>
> I think the concept is great, but can understand why it has
> apparently been abandonned for so long. To take it from it's
> present state to a comfortable user ready product seems perfectly
> possible, but, I guess, would require MANY MANY hours of detailed
> work.
>
> Still, if anyone is up for a challenge, ...
>
> Robert
>
> ********************************************************************
> This email and any attachments are confidential to the intended
> recipient and may also be privileged. If you are not the intended
> recipient please delete it from your system and notify the sender.
> You should not copy it or use it for any purpose nor disclose or
> distribute its contents to any other person.
> ********************************************************************
> --------------------------------------------
>
> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message containing the word
> "unsubscribe" to:
> blackbox-request{([at]})nowhere.xy>
> To get a list of valid e-mail commands and instructions on their usage,
> send a message containing the word "help" to the above address.
>
> Send any problem reports or questions related to this email list to the
> list owner at
> owner-blackbox{([at]})nowhere.xy>
> Current posting policy:
>
> a) To post you should use the same address by which you are subscribed to
> the mailing list. That way, the list server will recognize you as
> subscriber and forward your posting immediately, without creating any
> overhead.
>
> b) If, for some reason, you cannot post from the address, by which you are
> subscribed, your message will be moderated to avoid spam. Please
> understand that moderation will often cause some delay, in particular over
> weekends or holydays.
>
>
--------------------------------------------
To unsubscribe from this mailing list, send a message containing the word "unsubscribe" to:
blackbox-request{([at]})nowhere.xy
To get a list of valid e-mail commands and instructions on their usage, send a message containing the word "help" to the above address.
Send any problem reports or questions related to this email list to the list owner at
owner-blackbox{([at]})nowhere.xy
Current posting policy:
a) To post you should use the same address by which you are subscribed to the mailing list. That way, the list server will recognize you as subscriber and forward your posting immediately, without creating any overhead.
b) If, for some reason, you cannot post from the address, by which you are subscribed, your message will be moderated to avoid spam. Please understand that moderation will often cause some delay, in particular over weekends or holydays.
----boundary-LibPST-iamunique-1278081781_-_-
Content-type: application/rtf
Content-transfer-encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="rtf-body.rtf"
e1xydGYxXGFuc2lcYW5zaWNwZzEyNTJcZnJvbXRleHQgXGRlZmYwe1xmb250dGJsDQp7XGYwXGZz
d2lzcyBBcmlhbDt9DQp7XGYxXGZtb2Rlcm4gQ291cmllciBOZXc7fQ0Ke1xmMlxmbmlsXGZjaGFy
c2V0MiBTeW1ib2w7fQ0Ke1xmM1xmbW9kZXJuXGZjaGFyc2V0MCBDb3VyaWVyIE5ldzt9fQ0Ke1xj
b2xvcnRibFxyZWQwXGdyZWVuMFxibHVlMDtccmVkMFxncmVlbjBcYmx1ZTI1NTt9DQpcdWMxXHBh
cmRccGxhaW5cZGVmdGFiMzYwIFxmMFxmczIwIEJyYWhlIGlzIGEgZm9sbG93dXAgb24gS2VwbGVy
LCB0aGF0IHVzZWQgdG8gYmUgYSB0b29sIGZvciBjb21wb3NpbmdccGFyDQpkaWFncmFtcyB1bmRl
ciBPYmVyb24gU3lzdGVtLiBJIHRoaW5rIEtlcGxlciB3YXMgZGV2ZWxvcGVkIGJ5IEpvc2VmIFRl
bXBsXHBhcg0KZm9yIE4uV2lydGgsIHdobyB1c2VkIGl0IHRvIGRyYXcgZGlhZ3JhbXMgYW5kIGZs
b3djaGFydHMgaW4gaGlzIGJvb2tzIG9uXHBhcg0KY29tcGlsZXJzIGFuZCBkaWdpdGFsIGVsZWN0
cm9uaWNzLiBJIHVzZWQgS2VwbGVyIHF1aXRlIGEgYml0IGFuZCBpdCB3YXNccGFyDQpyZWFsbHkg
bmljZSBhcyBhIHRvb2wuIEl0IHdhcyBkZWZpbml0ZWx5IG5vdCBhIE0kLXN0eWxlIHByb2R1Y3Qg
d2l0aFxwYXINCm1hbnkgZmVhdHVyZXMsIGJ1dCBpdCB3YXMgY29udmVuaWVudCBhbmQgdXAgdG8g
dGhlIHRhc2suIEkgbmV2ZXIgdXNlZFxwYXINCkJyYWhlLCBidXQgSSB3b3VsZCBhc3N1bWUgaXQg
dG9vIGNhbiBiZSBhIHVzZWZ1bCB0b29sIGlmIGl0IGlzIHNpbWlsYXJccGFyDQp0byBLZXBsZXIu
XHBhcg0KXHBhcg0KSG9wZSB0aGlzIGhlbHBzLFxwYXINClcuXHBhcg0KXHBhcg0KPiBJJ20gbm90
IHJlYWxseSBzdXJlIHdoYXQgVmlzaW8gaXMsIGJ1dCAuLi5ccGFyDQo+XHBhcg0KPiBIYXZlIHlv
dSBsb29rZWQgYXQgLyB0cmllZCBCcmFoZT9ccGFyDQo+XHBhcg0KPiBJIHRoaW5rIHRoZSBjb25j
ZXB0IGlzIGdyZWF0LCBidXQgY2FuIHVuZGVyc3RhbmQgd2h5IGl0IGhhc1xwYXINCj4gYXBwYXJl
bnRseSBiZWVuIGFiYW5kb25uZWQgZm9yIHNvIGxvbmcuIFRvIHRha2UgaXQgZnJvbSBpdCdzXHBh
cg0KPiBwcmVzZW50IHN0YXRlIHRvIGEgY29tZm9ydGFibGUgdXNlciByZWFkeSBwcm9kdWN0IHNl
ZW1zIHBlcmZlY3RseVxwYXINCj4gcG9zc2libGUsIGJ1dCwgSSBndWVzcywgd291bGQgcmVxdWly
ZSBNQU5ZIE1BTlkgaG91cnMgb2YgZGV0YWlsZWRccGFyDQo+IHdvcmsuXHBhcg0KPlxwYXINCj4g
U3RpbGwsIGlmIGFueW9uZSBpcyB1cCBmb3IgYSBjaGFsbGVuZ2UsIC4uLlxwYXINCj5ccGFyDQo+
IFJvYmVydFxwYXINCj5ccGFyDQo+ICoqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioq
KioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqXHBhcg0KPiBUaGlzIGVtYWlsIGFuZCBh
bnkgYXR0YWNobWVudHMgYXJlIGNvbmZpZGVudGlhbCB0byB0aGUgaW50ZW5kZWRccGFyDQo+IHJl
Y2lwaWVudCBhbmQgbWF5IGFsc28gYmUgcHJpdmlsZWdlZC4gSWYgeW91IGFyZSBub3QgdGhlIGlu
dGVuZGVkXHBhcg0KPiByZWNpcGllbnQgcGxlYXNlIGRlbGV0ZSBpdCBmcm9tIHlvdXIgc3lzdGVt
IGFuZCBub3RpZnkgdGhlIHNlbmRlci5ccGFyDQo+IFlvdSBzaG91bGQgbm90IGNvcHkgaXQgb3Ig
dXNlIGl0IGZvciBhbnkgcHVycG9zZSBub3IgZGlzY2xvc2Ugb3JccGFyDQo+IGRpc3RyaWJ1dGUg
aXRzIGNvbnRlbnRzIHRvIGFueSBvdGhlciBwZXJzb24uXHBhcg0KPiAqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioq
KioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKioqKlxwYXIN
Cj4gLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS1ccGFyDQo+XHBh
cg0KPiBUbyB1bnN1YnNjcmliZSBmcm9tIHRoaXMgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0LCBzZW5kIGEgbWVzc2Fn
ZSBjb250YWluaW5nIHRoZSB3b3JkXHBhcg0KPiAidW5zdWJzY3JpYmUiIHRvOlxwYXINCj4gICAg
YmxhY2tib3gtcmVxdWVzdEBvYmVyb24uY2hccGFyDQo+XHBhcg0KPiBUbyBnZXQgYSBsaXN0IG9m
IHZhbGlkIGUtbWFpbCBjb21tYW5kcyBhbmQgaW5zdHJ1Y3Rpb25zIG9uIHRoZWlyIHVzYWdlLFxw
YXINCj4gc2VuZCBhIG1lc3NhZ2UgY29udGFpbmluZyB0aGUgd29yZCAiaGVscCIgdG8gdGhlIGFi
b3ZlIGFkZHJlc3MuXHBhcg0KPlxwYXINCj4gU2VuZCBhbnkgcHJvYmxlbSByZXBvcnRzIG9yIHF1
ZXN0aW9ucyByZWxhdGVkIHRvIHRoaXMgZW1haWwgbGlzdCB0byB0aGVccGFyDQo+IGxpc3Qgb3du
ZXIgYXRccGFyDQo+ICAgIG93bmVyLWJsYWNrYm94QG9iZXJvbi5jaFxwYXINCj5ccGFyDQo+IEN1
cnJlbnQgcG9zdGluZyBwb2xpY3k6XHBhcg0KPlxwYXINCj4gYSkgVG8gcG9zdCB5b3Ugc2hvdWxk
IHVzZSB0aGUgc2FtZSBhZGRyZXNzIGJ5IHdoaWNoIHlvdSBhcmUgc3Vic2NyaWJlZCB0b1xwYXIN
Cj4gdGhlIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdC4gVGhhdCB3YXksIHRoZSBsaXN0IHNlcnZlciB3aWxsIHJlY29n
bml6ZSB5b3UgYXNccGFyDQo+IHN1YnNjcmliZXIgYW5kIGZvcndhcmQgeW91ciBwb3N0aW5nIGlt
bWVkaWF0ZWx5LCB3aXRob3V0IGNyZWF0aW5nIGFueVxwYXINCj4gb3ZlcmhlYWQuXHBhcg0KPlxw
YXINCj4gYikgSWYsIGZvciBzb21lIHJlYXNvbiwgeW91IGNhbm5vdCBwb3N0IGZyb20gdGhlIGFk
ZHJlc3MsIGJ5IHdoaWNoIHlvdSBhcmVccGFyDQo+IHN1YnNjcmliZWQsIHlvdXIgbWVzc2FnZSB3
aWxsIGJlIG1vZGVyYXRlZCB0byBhdm9pZCBzcGFtLiBQbGVhc2VccGFyDQo+IHVuZGVyc3RhbmQg
dGhhdCBtb2RlcmF0aW9uIHdpbGwgb2Z0ZW4gY2F1c2Ugc29tZSBkZWxheSwgaW4gcGFydGljdWxh
ciBvdmVyXHBhcg0KPiB3ZWVrZW5kcyBvciBob2x5ZGF5cy5ccGFyDQo+XHBhcg0KPlxwYXINClxw
YXINCi0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tLS0tXHBhcg0KXHBh
cg0KVG8gdW5zdWJzY3JpYmUgZnJvbSB0aGlzIG1haWxpbmcgbGlzdCwgc2VuZCBhIG1lc3NhZ2Ug
Y29udGFpbmluZyB0aGUgd29yZCAidW5zdWJzY3JpYmUiIHRvOlxwYXINCiAgIGJsYWNrYm94LXJl
cXVlc3RAb2Jlcm9uLmNoXHBhcg0KXHBhcg0KVG8gZ2V0IGEgbGlzdCBvZiB2YWxpZCBlLW1haWwg
Y29tbWFuZHMgYW5kIGluc3RydWN0aW9ucyBvbiB0aGVpciB1c2FnZSwgc2VuZCBhIG1lc3NhZ2Ug
Y29udGFpbmluZyB0aGUgd29yZCAiaGVscCIgdG8gdGhlIGFib3ZlIGFkZHJlc3MuXHBhcg0KXHBh
cg0KU2VuZCBhbnkgcHJvYmxlbSByZXBvcnRzIG9yIHF1ZXN0aW9ucyByZWxhdGVkIHRvIHRoaXMg
ZW1haWwgbGlzdCB0byB0aGUgbGlzdCBvd25lciBhdFxwYXINCiAgIG93bmVyLWJsYWNrYm94QG9i
ZXJvbi5jaFxwYXINClxwYXINCkN1cnJlbnQgcG9zdGluZyBwb2xpY3k6XHBhcg0KXHBhcg0KYSkg
VG8gcG9zdCB5b3Ugc2hvdWxkIHVzZSB0aGUgc2FtZSBhZGRyZXNzIGJ5IHdoaWNoIHlvdSBhcmUg
c3Vic2NyaWJlZCB0byB0aGUgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0LiBUaGF0IHdheSwgdGhlIGxpc3Qgc2VydmVy
IHdpbGwgcmVjb2duaXplIHlvdSBhcyBzdWJzY3JpYmVyIGFuZCBmb3J3YXJkIHlvdXIgcG9zdGlu
ZyBpbW1lZGlhdGVseSwgd2l0aG91dCBjcmVhdGluZyBhbnkgb3ZlcmhlYWQuXHBhcg0KXHBhcg0K
YikgSWYsIGZvciBzb21lIHJlYXNvbiwgeW91IGNhbm5vdCBwb3N0IGZyb20gdGhlIGFkZHJlc3Ms
IGJ5IHdoaWNoIHlvdSBhcmUgc3Vic2NyaWJlZCwgeW91ciBtZXNzYWdlIHdpbGwgYmUgbW9kZXJh
dGVkIHRvIGF2b2lkIHNwYW0uIFBsZWFzZSB1bmRlcnN0YW5kIHRoYXQgbW9kZXJhdGlvbiB3aWxs
IG9mdGVuIGNhdXNlIHNvbWUgZGVsYXksIGluIHBhcnRpY3VsYXIgb3ZlciB3ZWVrZW5kcyBvciBo
b2x5ZGF5cy5ccGFyDQp9fQB5bGUg
----boundary-LibPST-iamunique-1278081781_-_---
Received on Thu Jun 03 2004 - 19:09:42 UTC