Re: [BLACKBOX] Blackbox mail list archive

From: [at]} <Wojtek>
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 13:38:50 -0500

----boundary-LibPST-iamunique-1682827604_-_-
Content-type: text/plain

> I know about Astrobe, my "PC as controller" phrase
> was intended to mean "Let's use a personal computer to control
> some third party hardware thingie via a supplied DLL".

I used BB to interface to interferometers, frame grabbers, National
Instruments ADC units, waveform digitizers, capacitance sensors, and USB
devices.

The Digital Trigger System for Dark Matter Search (LUX experiment) in the
Sanford Lab (Homestake, North Dakota) is served with the data acquistion
and control system written in BlackBox. The operation of the trigger
system is crucial for this experiment which one day may win a Nobel Prize
(we all hope).


> I've done this kind of thing in VB6 and Labview before and found
> problems with both. Labview was great if your controller fit on a
> screen, but scrolling drove me nearly insane (this was back in the i-486
> days).

LabView drew me insane on Pentium as well. LabView poses an interesting
question. If it is so bad as I experienced myself, then why is it so
popular?

> For true controller widgets, I'll use whatever they got. Astrobe if
> possible.

I think that Astrobe is great because it is Oberon. Out of curiosity I
looked at the Oberon Microsystems web page. Other than BlackBox, it is
maintained in some sort of an unknown language. But I noticed a word
"NETMF" in the main menu. Not sure what is MF, but "NET" I sort of
understand. It led me to another page with unknown language, and from
there I accessed a page "Getting Started with the Internet of Things".
That one looks pretty interesting. I wish I was using ARM for my projecs.
Unfortunately, I am using Blackfin.


> The comments about "free" Blackbox surprise me. As I read the Oberon
> Microsystems site, Blackbox is free until you produce something with it
> and charge the customer. Did I read it correctly?

I think it would be fair, but I am not sure where it is written?

W.

----
To unsubscribe, send a message with body "SIGNOFF BLACKBOX" to LISTSERV{([at]})nowhere.xy----boundary-LibPST-iamunique-1682827604_-_-
Content-type: application/rtf
Content-transfer-encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="rtf-body.rtf"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----boundary-LibPST-iamunique-1682827604_-_---

Received on Thu Feb 16 2012 - 19:38:50 UTC