Re: [BLACKBOX] Seasoned Linux.

From: [at]} <Norayr>
Date: Wed, 12 Jan 2011 23:25:00 +0400

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I know, that via-c compilation is often not appreciated by purists, but
did you try oo2c ?
I've ported both Ofront and oo2c to the different platforms, and it's
hard to me to say that one is better than other, but oo2c has pretty
nice and stable library, which you may find useful in your projects.
For example, this is oo2c for 6502 platforms which uses cc65 as a
backend: http://sourceforge.net/projects/nmos6502-oo2c/
I would publish my ports of Ofront, but I am not sure whether license
permits that.
However, this is a screenshot of Ofront running on Nokia N810, which is
Debian Etch + Hildon GUI etc http://norayr.arnet.am/weblog/?p=668

Besides, as the FreePascal community works well, and fpc was ported to
the ARM EABI, this is my recent contribution to Maemo wiki:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Compile_FreePascal_on_device
and a screenshot of Lazarus on maemo: http://norayr.arnet.am/weblog/?p=1412
und so weiter
Sincerely,
Norayr


On 01/12/11 22:05, Wojtek Skulski wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Jan 2011, Bob Walkden wrote:
>
>> I see, thanks. I don't run any Linux systems, so I don't have a Linux
>> Oberon. I have recently installed Minix 3 so perhaps when I've got that
>> sorted out I'll take a look at the Linux Oberons.
>
> I am running coLinux downloaded from Analog Devices website. It is
> described here:
> http://docs.blackfin.uclinux.org/doku.php?id=colinux
>
> The main coLinux webpage is here: http://www.colinux.org/
>
> Preconfigured coLinux can be downloaded from Analog Devices. Download
> and install the larger package (110 MB). The smaller one is meant for
> upgrading an already installed coLinux.
> http://blackfin.uclinux.org/gf/project/bfin-colinux/frs
>
> This particular coLinux is a preconfigured Debian. It installs very
> nicely and runs cooperatively with Windows. You do not need dual boot.
> You can start/stop coLinux at any time while Windows is running. From
> the Windows standpoint it behaves like an application. In fact it is a
> full Linux running on a virtual machine alongside Windows.
>
> Contrary to what the installation readme is saying, coLinux does not
> need much memory. I am now starting coLinux with only 64 MB memory,
> which is sufficient to cross-compile Linux kernel.
>
> The installation file contains just Linux without the gcc or kernel
> sources. After you install coLinux, you can take it into three directions:
>
> 1) Use it to run Linux applications. Display graphics on your Windows
> desktop with X server, which is included.
>
> 2) Use it to develop i386 apps and/or i386 kernel. You will need to
> download and install the usual i386 toolchain from one of many Linux
> websites. I would guess Debian is preferred because this particular
> coLinux is Debian.
>
> 3) Use coLinux to cross-develop Blackfin, which I am doing. For this you
> will need to download the Blackfin toolchain from the same website.
>
> I am only interested in #3. However, coLinux is equally usable for #1
> and #2 as well.
>
> I would say that coLinux is the least painful way to dive into Linux
> development, whether #1, #2, or #3. Compared with the usual pain of
> installing Linux, coLinux is sheer pleasure. You do not need to
> repartition your disk or install lilo or anything like that.
>
> Here is a good info webpage concerning Linux, with book recommendation:
>
> http://docs.blackfin.uclinux.org/doku.php?id=references_and_pointers
>
> Finally, the Linz Oberon 1.7 for Linux can be downloaded from sourceforge:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/oberon/
> oberon-1.7.02.tar.gz
>
> In the latter archive there should be some useful hints how the V4 was
> put on top of Linux.
>
> Hope it helps,
>
> W.
>
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