Re: [BLACKBOX] How to 'embed' from Campbell, Robert (SELEX GALILEO, UK) on 2011-10-05 (BB-FullArchive.mbox)

From: Campbell, Robert (SELEX GALILEO, UK) <robert.d.campbell{([at]})nowhere.xy>
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 09:30:56 +0100

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Doug

Having read your question again ...

Maybe the following extracts from Escher/Mod/ViewFigs might also be
helpful ...

TYPE
        Context = POINTER TO RECORD (Models.Context)
                view: Views.View; (* contained view *)
                w, h: INTEGER (* size of contained view *)
        END;

        Panel = POINTER TO RECORD (Views.View)
                c: Context
        END;

PROCEDURE AttachView (panel: Panel; view: Views.View; w, h: INTEGER);
        VAR c: Context;
        BEGIN
                ASSERT(view # NIL, 65);
                NEW(c); panel.c := c;
                c.w := MAX(w, minSiz);
                c.h := MAX(h, minSiz);
                c.view := view; c.view.InitContext(c);
Stores.Join(panel, view);
                panel.context.SetSize(c.w, c.h);
                Views.Update(panel, TRUE)
        END AttachView;

In the above Panel is 'simple', and holds view directly without using an
intervening Model.

Robert

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Josef Templ
        Sent: 05 October 2011 08:07
        To: BLACKBOX{([at]})nowhere.xy
        Subject: Re: [BLACKBOX] How to 'embed'


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        I have not done this myself, but from the docu and interafces it
seems that
        the embedding mechanism is embodied in the module 'Containers'.
        TextModels.Model extends Containers.Model and TextViews.View
extends Containers.View,
        for example.
        So I guess your own model and corresponding view would need to
be subclassed
        in the same way in order to support embedding.
        Good luck.

        - Josef


                ----- Original Message -----
                From: Douglas G. Danforth
<mailto:danforth{([at]})nowhere.xy
                To: BLACKBOX{([at]})nowhere.xy
                Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 11:47 PM
                Subject: Re: [BLACKBOX] How to 'embed'

                Wojtek,
                I used that language because in the documentation for
Models it says

                "A model may be a container, i.e., contain embedded
views. An embedded view can communicate with the model in which it is
embedded via a Context.
                A container model provides a context for each embedded
view. Using its context, a view can inquire its current size, or it can
try to change its size."

                Josef,
                You said "You can do this also with your own model but
the view used for displaying your model must be aware of
                embedded views and render everything accordingly."

                From that I infer that there is no general mechanism for
ebbedding. Each model must handle it specifically.
                Now I am up a creek since I do not know how to put a
view, v(small v) at a specific place within its container
                view, V(big v). I know how to do this for FormViews
(again a specific case) by using a FormControllers
                and using its Insert procedure which takes l, t, r, b
coordinates. I tried tracking the logic of that through the
                code and got lost after descending many modules.

                I'll take a look at TextModels and hopefully find a way
to generalize embedding in a bland view which does
                not have a model (or at list a model that is extremely
primitive).

                Thank you.

                -Doug

                On 10/4/2011 1:21 AM, Josef Templ wrote:

                        Actually, it depends on the capabilities of the
model.
                        A TextModels.Model, for example, provides means
for
                        embedding an arbitray Views.View into the
character stream (see TextModels.Writer.WriteView).
                        You can do this also with your own model but the
view used for displaying your model must be aware of
                        embedded views and render everything
accordingly.
                        Rendering the embedded views will typically be
delegated to the embedded views, though.

                        - JT




                        ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wojtek
Skulski" <skulski{([at]})nowhere.xy

                        To: <BLACKBOX{([at]})nowhere.xy
<mailto:BLACKBOX{([at]})nowhere.xy
                        Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 6:42 AM
                        Subject: Re: [BLACKBOX] How to 'embed'


                        "embedding of one view into a model" is a self
contradiction.

                        The model provides data "1, 2, 3, 4...". The
data makes no assumptions how
                        it will be displayed, or whether it will be
displayed at all.

                        The view imports the model. So it knows the
details of the model (array,
                        record, list, double-linked-list, DAG, or any
other fancy structure).
                        However, there is a firm assumption that no
details about the display go
                        into the model. The model can only provide the
numbers, but no details
                        about the display.

                        The Model-View separayion means the separation
of concerns. The model can
                        calculate. The view can display the results of
calculations.

                        Your question is breaking the separation. You
are trying to put the
                        imported concerns back into the importee. This
has to lead to circular
                        data structures. Hence, it is not implementable.


                        W.




                                                    Folks,

                                     I am old and tired of poking
through documentation and code.
                                     So if you can please help me out it
would be greatly appreciated.

                                     If you search the BB documentation
for the word 'embed' you find
                                     many hits. But no where does it
explicitly state the steps needed
                                     to do an embedding of one view into
a model.

                                     What are the least number of steps
to embed a view into a model?

                                     =
                                     My paltry efforts center around

                                     Views.InstallFrame(f, view, l, t,
level, focus);

                                     That is, given the frame (f) of the
view in which one wants to embed
                                     the view 'view' one does the above.
BUT BB complains that view
                                     does not have a context nor a
domain. Well that is what I was
                                hoping
                                     the InstallFrame procedure would
provide to view.

                                     So I can start and assign a context
to view taken from the context
                                 of
                                     f.view.context BUT I believe that
is wrong.

                                     Given a bare extension of
Views.View with no additional structure
                                     TYPE View = POINTER TO
RECORD(Views.View) END;
                                     as the container view I wish to
embed arbitrary other Views.View
                                     as the contained view AND when the
container view is restored
                                     (which unto itself does nothing)
how do I get all of the contained
                                 views
                                     to restore themselves (or does that
happen automatically OR do I
                                     need to forward a message)?

                                     Doug


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