Re: [BLACKBOX] BlackBox on other platforms?

From: [at]} <Chris>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2010 14:34:21 +1030

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The answer is 'Yes' or 'No' depending on exactly what you mean by "available
on platforms". Previous responses by various people on this mailing list to
similar questions have been:

"there are currently no plans by Oberon microsystems to port BlackBox to
Linux."

"I've been running Blackbox with Wine on Ubuntu. It seems identical to
running it on Windows."

"I use BB under Wine. There are a lot of small bugs, so that, even if it's
possible to do so, it's not fine. So I installed it in Windows XP in a
virtual machine (VirtualBox) inside Linux (i.e. Ubuntu). It's a little
better, but not completely satisfactory."

"The Russian Oberon site has a few discussions relating to progress (or not)
of the port of BlackBox to Linux."

  http://www.oberoncore.ru

"The ELF-Linker for BlackBox (a linker which produces a Linux executable)
can be found here:

  
http://mathstat.helsinki.fi/openbugs/LinBUGS.html

"currently there are no known problems using the BlackBox Component Builder
with Wine >= 0.9.36 under Linux."

"Wine is reported to work under Mac OS X. It probably requires usage of X
windows, which is probably not as nice as Macs native UI."

"Using Suse 10.1 and Wine Version 0.9.11 the BlackBox really runs nice under
Linux. All the Gui-Elements work (which was an problem with previous
versions of wine), even Database-Interfacing using ODBC is possible."

"I have been running BB under VMWare on a Linux box for years."

"I run BB on a MacBook BUT the Mac is running Windows XP. This is
accomplished via Parallels Desktop virtualization software.
Cost: $80 for Parallels desk top + $$ Windows XP."

Lastly, early versions of Blackbox were available on the Mac until Apple
switched from the 68000 CPU. A year or so ago I acquired a 1992 MC68040 Mac
Quadra and the 1998 version 1.3 of Blackbox runs very nicely on it. I was
pleasantly surprised to see how much of the current version of Blackbox had
already been developed that long ago.

Regards,
Chris

Chris Burrows
CFB Software
http://www.cfbsoftware.com

> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlackBox [mailto:BLACKBOX{([at]})nowhere.xy
> Sent: Saturday, 30 January 2010 10:14 AM
> To: BLACKBOX{([at]})nowhere.xy
> Subject: [BLACKBOX] BlackBox on other platforms?
>
> Hello everyone,
> I was wondering if the BlackBox Component Builder was
> available on platforms other than Windows? Specifically, for
> Mac OS X or Linux?
>
> Thanks,
> Rob
>


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