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Hi Bernhard & Anes,
yes even without math extensions it would be nice to have a more
modern implementation of oberon compiler with BlackBox. The current
compiler can act quite unpredictable with floating point calculations
on modern CPUs.
As for Active Oberon for BlackBox, there is a version of Active
BlackBox 1.5 beta on oberoncore.ru:
http://store.oberoncore.ru/BlackBox/15/abb15beta.7z
It could be a good starting point if somebody would like to develop it further.
Regards,
Georgy
On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Treutwein Bernhard
<Bernhard.Treutwein{([at]})nowhere.xy
> Hi Anes,
>
> thanks for your encouraging notes. I contacted Felix Friedrich yesterday for
> his upcoming technical report about the current PaCo (see:
> http://www.jg.inf.ethz.ch/wiki/Fof/Compiler)
> but did not get a reply until now ...
>
> The sources of the compiler are either in the A2 distribution (CD image) or
> the WinAos or in the svn repository here:
> https://www.ocp.inf.ethz.ch/svn/aos/trunk/source/
>
> You should ask for an account for the svn repository (mailto:ocp{([at]})nowhere.xy> see: http://www.ocp.inf.ethz.ch/wiki/Development/Repository).
>
> I am not shure if I have really enough time, but I'd love to see the Math
> extensions in BlackBox.
>
> regards so far ...
> --
> Bernhard Treutwein
> Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: anes.sadikovic{([at]})nowhere.xy>> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 2:21 AM
>> To: Treutwein Bernhard; Anes.Sadikovic{([at]})nowhere.xy>> Cc: georgy.jikia{([at]})nowhere.xy>> Subject: Re: RE: [BLACKBOX] Matrix slices - syntax
>>
>>
>> Bernhard ,
>>
>> At the time we spoke about the idea, BlackBox was still a
>> proprietary and no source code for the CP compiler was
>> available. It is easier to do something like that now. I did
>> some experiments, creating another language, which was just
>> slightly different than CP: lowercase keywords, and some
>> other minor changes, just to make a point. Yes, that is not
>> too difficult to do. So, it would be possible to create
>> ActiveOberon compiler under CP (except for the Active part,
>> since BB is not multitasking environment).
>>
>> Anes
>>
>> On Apr 12, 2010 4:08am, Treutwein Bernhard
>> <Bernhard.Treutwein{([at]})nowhere.xy>> > Hi Georgy,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > let me reply off the list:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > [...]
>> >
>> > > can one also adapt these matrix extensions for the use
>> with BlackBox?
>> >
>> > > Or is Active Oberon essential here?
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > currently Active Oberon is essential and I doubt that
>> OMiSys would support
>> >
>> > extending the compiler, but I speculated already a longer
>> time ago with Anes
>> >
>> > Sadikovich about cross-mating the BlackBox compiler
>> back-end with the Active
>> >
>> > Oberon front end.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I don't really know if something like that might be
>> feasible, but it is an
>> >
>> > idea, which I did not want to keep für myself ...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > If it is possible to do the cross mating, it might also be
>> possible to cross
>> >
>> > mate the backends, and there are several ones like AMD64, ARM ...
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > regards
>> >
>> > --
>> >
>> > Bernhard
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> >
>> > > From: BlackBox [mailto:BLACKBOX{([at]})nowhere.xy>> >
>> > > Georgy Jikia
>> >
>> > > Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 2:31 PM
>> >
>> > > To: BLACKBOX{([at]})nowhere.xy>> >
>> > > Subject: Re: [BLACKBOX] Matrix slices - syntax
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > > Hi Bernhard,
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > > can one also adapt these matrix extensions for the use
>> with BlackBox?
>> >
>> > > Or is Active Oberon essential here?
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > > Regards,
>> >
>> > > Georgy
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > > On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 12:48 PM, Bernhard Treutwein
>> >
>> > > bernhard{([at]})nowhere.xy>> >
>> > > > Hi Doug,
>> >
>> > > >
>> >
>> > > > after I've read your final remarks, it may be possible that
>> >
>> > > you could be
>> >
>> > > > interested in the matrix extensions and the math
>> >
>> > > programming stuff for
>> >
>> > > > Active Oberon ...
>> >
>> > > >
>> >
>> > > >
>> >
>> > > ations/ArrayStructuredOT.pdf"
>> target="_blank">http://nativesystems.inf.ethz.ch/pub/Main/Feli
>> xFriedrichPublic
>> >
>> > ations/ArrayStructuredOT.pdf
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > ingMultilinearAlgebra.pdf"
>> target="_blank">http://nativesystems.inf.ethz.ch/pub/Main/Feli
>> xFriedrichPublications/Programm
>> >
>> > ingMultilinearAlgebra.pdf
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > > regards & happy Easter
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > > Bernhard
>> >
>> > >
>> >
>> > >
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