Re: [BLACKBOX] Post-mortem debugging

From: Oleg N. Cher <"Oleg>
Date: Mon, 24 May 2010 14:33:28 +0300

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Dear Chris,

Yes, you're absolutely right. And there are many things to I must learn
and use to
have to call myself as "a professional developer". :-) Thank you.

By the way, has anybody the experience using code profilers under the
BlackBox?
I use GpProfile under Delphi, it's very very not bad. Please look:

http://stefcr.mgslab.com/files/Profiling.png

And we see what procedure delays the starting of program by ~2 sec :-)))
Can we have similar possibility as standard or third-party, under BlackBox?

Chris Burrows wrote:
> The more I think about it the more that statement puzzles me. I wonder if
> you are aware how powerful the post-mortem debugger in BlackBox really is
> e.g. that you can 'drill-down' by clicking on the active links indicated by
> the blue diamonds?
>
> It might just be one of those extremely useful features BlackBox that are
> often not apparent if you haven't seen a demonstration of the system. e.g.
> despite reading ALL the documentation once or twice, I had been using the
> system for several years before I realised the usefulness of the Source,
> Interface and Documentation items on the editor popup menu :-( In my
> defence - they are not very visible as they are greyed out most of the time
> - but that is another controversial subject altogether.
>
> It reminds me of an enlightening experience I had in another life. I was
> giving a presentation to the sales team of all the new features in the
> latest version of the Windows application we had been been selling for about
> five years. During the presentation I happened to press the F1 key to bring
> up a context-sensitive Help screen to remind myself how something worked.
> Everybody thought that was a new feature! We, as developers, were so used to
> F1 Help being a standard part of any Windows application we hadn't thought
> of mentioning it before.
>
> Regards,
> Chris Burrows
>
> CFB Software
> Astrobe: ARM Oberon-07 Development System
> http://www.astrobe.com
>
Respectfully yours,
Oleg N. Cher, Vedanta software.

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