Re: [BLACKBOX] Mobile-device development (was: ARRAY as CONSTANT)

From: [at]} <CFB>
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:48:37 +1030

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: BlackBox [mailto:BLACKBOX{([at]})nowhere.xy
> Oleg N. Cher
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2008 11:08 AM
> To: BLACKBOX{([at]})nowhere.xy
> Subject: Re: [BLACKBOX] ARRAY as CONSTANT
>
> (As experiment, I want to port this game to J2me-oriented
> mobile devices and to old 8 bit ZX Spectrum. Remember?
> It was my first computer.) And so all doubtful people
> will see high portability of language Oberon-2 in practice.
> We very need new people, to develop this direction of programming.
>

In my opinion Oberon-2 / CP is not 'simple-enough' for those sorts of
devices. When programming Palm PDA's I used PocketStudio Pascal which is
much more primitive than CP but more than adequate to do the job.
Unfortunately, being a subset of Pascal it still had all the old Pascal
flaws that were designed out when Modula-2 and Oberon / CP were created.

I share your interest in this this direction of programming. My current
'hobby project' is a 'safe' language (hence my recent proposal regarding IN
parameters) that lies somewhere between Oberon-0 and CP, targeted at
primitive, resource limited, microprocessor-based systems - the sort of
thing that many use C for these days. Oberon-0 was my starting point. I've
added a few features and also removed some.

> But what will I say to my friends, programmers which work
> in C++/Delphi/C# ? "Just try Component Pascal, because there are
> no constantly initialized arrays"? :-(
>

If they are working on a project that has a non-negotiable requirement for
constant initialised arrays then you are wasting your time.

There are many different languages and development tools available. Very
rarely would there be an exact fit of a development tool to a particular
project - there are always compromises and tradeoffs involved. A competent
programmer would be aware of the benefits and drawbacks of a wide range of
such tools and be in a position to select the most appropriate one for the
job in hand. In my opinion, BlackBox's major strength is its language
simplicity, reliability and relative ease of producing bug-free code.

Chris Burrows
CFB Software
http://www.cfbsoftware.com/cp

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