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Hello!
> Excuse my apparant arrogance, but there is an existing infrastructure of
> people out there who know about a little thing called WriteLn and ReadLn.
> Millions of us. And if it ain't in Component Pascal, then we ain't using
> Component Pascal.
I agree that the most important feature of the Pascal language was the
ReadLn/WriteLn feature. Dropping it from the language and pushing it
into the runtime-library is a step way back! What is this, the Middle
Ages?!
: )))
Seriously, though.
How come the name Niklaus (Wirth presumably?) is in the subject? He
didn't invent the Component Pascal language. He had nothing to do with
the BlackBox either (to my knowledge).
> Do I have to write the stdio routines myself? I've done it before using
> winapi calls in freepascal for kicks and giggles. So I can do it for
> component pascal. But why should I have to? Put yourself in the
> developer's shoes of year 2007.
Despite the admitted arrogance the author makes a good point. The
BlackBox' Host subsystem can detect if the application has been run with
a standard console attached. It could redirect Log/Dialog output to the
console on that occasion. That also applies to the Kernel showing that
MessageBox instead of reporting trap to the stderr if in console mode.
The modules In and Out could also work with consoles, filling that stdio
functionality of ReadLn/WriteLn.
Apparently, console applications were not in minds of BlackBox
developers, but I think they would accept that as a contribution, would
they?
> Yes, I know stdout isn't good
How come it ain't good? A console is just another interface, which is
quite good for batch processing. It is the ultimate weapon in Unix/Linux
community.
> If there is no standard out, no one will take blackbox seriously, ever.
Well, that's just exaggeration.
> We've all been brainwashed into thinking that console programs must run
> on std out, not in some log window in blackbox.
You just need to be brainwashed again, no biggie.
> Even if blackbox log windows are superior .. that doesn't mean
> brainwashed people are going to actually realize the power of blackbox
> right away - first they need stuff like standard out.. the wrong stuff.
Brainwashed people won't realize anything they weren't brainwashed to
realize. Whole 'nother story is that the console is a well-known
interface. I think it should be supported for completeness' sake. It
would widen the range of tasks the BlackBox is good for.
> history repeats itself?
It sure does.
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