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Helmut,
Files.File.Close behaves quite subtly. The documentation says: "The file f and the riders operating on file f are not valid anymore after closing f, i.e., no more file or rider operations may be performed on it." Consequently you are not allowed to close a file unless you are absolutely sure that you are in the possession of the only reference to a given file instance in the entire BlackBox system. This condition does not hold in the scenario described by you. In an open system like BlackBox this behavior is obviously less than optimal. To correct this we would have to redesign the Files implementation in HostFiles. The cleanest way to do this would be to simply reopen files if they are accessed after they have been closed.
Cheers
Marc
Oberon microsystems AG
+41 (0)44 445 17 51
www.oberon.ch
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blackbox{([at]})nowhere.xy> Behalf Of Zinn, Helmut
> Sent: Dienstag, 17. Januar 2006 13:09
> To: Blackbox
> Subject: [BlackBox] - AW: [BlackBox] - closing shared files
>
>
> Dear Andrew, dear Mark,
>
> long time ago I had a close statement inside my subsystem Dos
> (DosDiffDir.DiffBin) active. I get the following problem
> while the Close statement was active:
> - I had open file x interactively and have done some changes
> (not saved yet)
> - I run DosDiffDir which opened and closed file x
> - I work further with file x interactively
> - Suddenly I get trap and all changes was lost
> - It was also not able to save the changes of file x after
> DosDiffDir was running. So I can't recommend to use the
> command close until you are sure that there is no other use
> of the same file.
>
> Regards
>
> Helmut Zinn
>
>
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: blackbox{([at]})nowhere.xy> von Oberon microsystems AG, Tech-Support
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 17. Januar 2006 11:38
> An: BlackBox Mailing List
> Betreff: [BlackBox] - closing shared files
>
>
> Andrew,
>
> > However looking at module HostFiles I am not sure that Close
> > does "nothing" for files opened in shared mode.
>
> You are right. The corrected sentence reads as follows:
> "Close does nothing if the file is not open."
>
> > I suspect that statements like
> > IF Files.dir.Old(....files.shared) # NIL THEN ... END
> > are causing problems. Maybe FINALIZE does not get called in
> this case?
>
> No problem with this. The documentation says: "If a call to
> New or Old is not balanced by a call to Close, the Close is
> later performed automatically, at an unspecified time." Close
> will not be called until the garbage collector kicks in and
> calls FINALIZE on the anonymous file object created by the
> statement above.
>
> > Do I have to explicitly close the file f by calling f.Close?
>
> In your case this would probably be the right thing to do
> unless it is okay to wait that unspecified amount of time for
> the garbage collector.
>
> with best regards
> Marc
>
> Oberon microsystems AG
> +41 (0)44 445 17 51
> www.oberon.ch
>
>
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: blackbox{([at]})nowhere.xy> > Behalf Of A Thomas
> > Sent: Donnerstag, 12. Januar 2006 09:16
> > To: Blackbox
> > Subject: [BlackBox] - closing shared files
> >
> >
> > Hei BlackBox community,
> >
> > I am very confused about the need to close files
> > that have been opened in shared mode. Suppose I open a file
> > in shared mode using f := Files.dir.Old(... Files.shared) and
> > read the file and find some sort of error in its contents
> > that requires the file to be edited. So long as the file f is
> > not stored in a global variable I think there should be no
> > problem, I should be able to start say NotePad to edit the
> > file. Do I have to explicitly close the file f by calling
> > f.Close? In the documentation for module File it says
> >
> > PROCEDURE (f: File) Close
> > NEW, ABSTRACT
> > Closes an open file. Close does nothing if the file is not
> > open or if it has been opened in "shared" mode. If a call to
> > New or Old is not balanced by a call to Close, the Close is
> > later performed automatically, at an unspecified time. If it
> > is known that a file won't be used again, it is recommended
> > to call its Close procedure. The file f and the riders
> > operating on file f are not valid anymore after closing f,
> > i.e., no more file or rider operations may be performed on
> > it. However, the closed file can be retrieved and opened
> > again by procedure Old. Close may call Flush internally.
> > Close should (but need not necessarily) be called explicitly
> > after a file is not needed anymore.
> >
> > However looking at module HostFiles I am not sure that Close
> > does "nothing" for files opened in shared mode.
> >
> >
> > I suspect that statements like
> >
> > IF Files.dir.Old(....files.shared) # NIL THEN ... END
> >
> > are causing problems. Maybe FINALIZE does not get called in
> this case?
> >
> > Moi
> >
> > Andrew
> >
>
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