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Seeing the philosophical side of this issue, I do disagree. IMHO, postmodernism rises out of the understanding that nobody is without bias. Thus, we acknowledge that our research is, in fact biased, and yet we try to come nearer to objective truth by falsification.
When we apply this to software development and programming language issues, we have to say that we do not have the absolute truth. This is manifested in the continuing development of Wirthian languages. In every new generation of his language, Wirth cut away what was unneccessary (i.e. what has been falsified). Once, he had to re-introduce an element that he had cut away (the FOR-loop). That's the Popperian element of programming philosophy.
The other thing is to acknowledge biases. We *are* biased to Wirthian thought about language. Nobody here can claim that accepting Oberon as THE language was, because it is the absolute perfect language. Likewise postmodernist C++-developers would have to agree that their despise for Wirthian language is not due to some feature Wirthian languages have or have not, or some other absolute truth, but rather it was a decision based on personal whims (either their own or that of their teachers and/or bosses).
Thus, the decision which language is to be used should not be decided on absolutes, but rather on the appliability of a concept to a situation given. This leads to two conclusions:
1) Intercommunication between "worlds" is desireable (Bluebottle's integration of Java is a step in the right direction)
2) The software that leads to better results in a given situation should be preferred for this situation.
I don't see this as a necessarily bad thing.
Rene
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"Gûrberen," pent i naneth dî,
"mabapadan a ce darach sí!"
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> > Wojtek Skulski wrote:
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>> I think nothing would be wrong with someone not always following
>> the "opportunity costs". I think there is something wrong with
>> telling people they should always follow the "opportunity costs".
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>> W
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> Ah, I know what it is. Its the fried egg issue.
I think this is coming close to a philosophical discussion. What we see
happen in the modern world (actually, post-modern) is that the customer
becomes the center of the Universe. For the customer, there are no
absolutes, no wright nor wrong. It's just that some things 'feel good'
(right now). And the IT is the servant: it does not tell the customer
what is best for him and what he really needs, rather it does what
immediately pleases him. As I've said, this is post-modern world.
Wojtek, on the other hand, seems to be 'modern' as opposed to
'post-modern'. He believes some things are wright in IT and some are
wrong. Isn't he from a University? That's the way universities have ever
been: they tell you wright from wrong. That's the way Wirth was. And
notice: that's not based on pragmatism ("it's wright 'cause it will do
you good over the long term", subjective), it's based on something
objective ("it's wright because it is wright").
Post-modernism is very damaging, some philosophers believe, because it
removes all and any absolutes. I think I can see how it is damaging the
CS. I just hope there will be enough 'modern' professors and other
educators in universities to sustain CS (and BB) thru the 'dark ages' of
post-modernism. Some say it is coming to and end soon.
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