- CP to NET: A caveat

From: Douglas G. Danforth <"Douglas>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 10:55:45 -0400

----boundary-LibPST-iamunique-1097905455_-_- Content-type: text/plain René A. Krywult wrote: What we need to identify is what BB is really useful for. Exactly my feeling, though I would formulate it differently: Identify what BB is BEST used for and support this with all we have. In the Commodore Amiga days, Modula-2 became very popular there, in fact becoming THE language for programming games. Of course, modula- 2 could do far more, but it was this niche where M2 prospered the most. Rene Perhaps "personal programming" is the domain for BB? This seems right but BASIC is also a personal programming tool and yet is far more limited than BB/CP. I would definitely not want to put BB/CP in the same camp as BASIC. As a scientist I can do everything I need to in BB/CP but then I don't have any pressure to 'produce' (I'm semi-retired). Examples of use: o Building local models of quantum entanglement using the detector efficiency loophole. o Building crude models of gas dynamics for interactions with a rotary engine. o Simulating Jeff Hawkins' "On Intelligence" in the domain of speech. o Keeping records of my golf scores and updating my handicap over the last 10 games played. o Beginning to consider implementing LISP in BB/CP so that I can implement REDUCE (symbolic mathematics) in order to have a hand held notebook where I can scrawl equations and have them verified (same as Mathematica with handwriting recognition but available to everyone) etc. I would hate to do such things in C++ or Java. -Doug Danforth ----boundary-LibPST-iamunique-1097905455_-_- Content-type: application/rtf Content-transfer-encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="rtf-body.rtf" e1xydGYxXGFuc2lcYW5zaWNwZzEyNTJcZnJvbWh0bWwxIFxkZWZmMHtcZm9udHRibA0Ke1xmMFxm 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