Dear Dr Jono Hardjowirogo,
I'm coming back to you on behalf of the "Oberon Series".
> From jono{([at]})nowhere.xy
[...]
>
> Prof. Treutwein,
>
thanks for the "upgrade", but the title is not necessar.
In the german system I'm not a professor but in a position
which is similar to an assistant professor in the US system.
>
> Thank you for your offer for the use of the Oberon community. When the
> time comes, I may want to contact you for this purpose.
>
in the last months there were several request in the
comp.lang.oberon newsgroup for used copies of books
of the "Oberon series". Therefore I'd like to ask
you, if any progress has been made with providing
the the "oberon series" in digital library.
kind regards & thanks in advance
Bernhard Treutwein Tel. +49-89-5996-642, Fax -615
Institut f. Med. Psychologie Ludwig-Maximilians-Universitaet
bernhard{([at]})nowhere.xy
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> Sincerely,
>
> Jono Hardjowirogo
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bernhard{([at]})nowhere.xy> > Sent: Friday, September 24, 1999 4:38 AM
> > To: jono{([at]})nowhere.xy> > Subject: RE: The Oberon Series (addendum)
> >
> >
> > I forgot to mention that I have already scanned (& OCR'ed) chapter
> > 14 of Reiser's Oberon System and got the permission to use it for
> > documentation purposes. Getting the permission was an awful experience
> > of getting handed from ACM (Deborah Cotton) via several stages to
> > Pearson during several months.
> >
> > Maybe others in the (small) Oberon community would be volunteer ...
> >
> > regards
> >
> > Bernhard Treutwein Tel. +49-89-5996-642, Fax -615
> > Institut f. Med. Psychologie Ludwig-Maximilians-Universitaet
> > bernhard{([at]})nowhere.xy> > -------------------------------- ---------------------------
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> Dear Prof. Treutwein,
>
> Unfortunately, all the Oberon series of books were put out of print
> because they no longer sells. So, it was done for economic reason more
> than anything else. Interests in the Oberon project are no longer as
> strong as they were once, so, we felt that it was time to retire the
> books from the active list.
>
> I do agree with you assessment that the project was of a monumental
> importance to computer science. For this reason, I am looking to have
> those books scanned and made available in their entireties on the ACM
> website. This way, future programmers who are looking for materials on
> Oberon can simply take a look or download the materials in which they
> are interested. I am not sure when we can have this affected as it does
> involve some logistical issues from our side.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jono Hardjowirogo
> Publisher, ACM Press Books and Journals
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Deborah Cotton
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 12:16 PM
> > To: 'bernhard{([at]})nowhere.xy> > Cc: Jono Hardjowirogo; Deborah Cotton
> > Subject: RE: The Oberon Series
> >
> > Hello Prof. Treutwein,
> >
> > Thanks for the compliment, but I'm forwarding this to Jono
> > Hardjowirogo, ACM Press Books publisher, as this question
> > is beyond my scope. I was not aware that ACM Press had
> > discontinued the Oberon series, but perhaps he can give details
> > regarding the decision or refer you to the proper authority in
> > this case. Good luck.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Deborah
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: bernhard{([at]})nowhere.xy> > Sent: Tuesday, September 21, 1999 3:50 AM
> > To: cotton{([at]})nowhere.xy> > Subject: The Oberon Series
> >
> > Dear Deborah Cotton,
> >
> > sorry to contact you again, but since you were very cooperative in
> > my Copyright question about Reiser's Oberon System in April to June
> > this year, I hope that you can point me out, whome I should contact
> > with the following issue:
> >
> > AWL has finally shut down the whole Oberon series:
> >
> > [WiR92] N. Wirth and M. Reiser
> > Programming in Oberon - Steps Beyond Pascal and Modula
> > Addison-Wesley, 1992, ISBN 0-201-56543-9
> >
> > [Rei92] M. Reiser
> > The Oberon System; User Guide and Programmer's Manual
> > Addison-Wesley, 1992, ISBN 0-201-54422-9
> >
> > [WiG92] N. Wirth and J. Gutknecht
> > Project Oberon - The Design of an Operating System and Compiler
> > Addison-Wesley, 1992, ISBN 0-201-54428-8
> >
> > [WiR94] N. Wirth and M. Reiser
> > Programmieren in Oberon - Das neue Pascal
> > Addison-Wesley, 1994, ISBN 3-89319-657-9 -
> > Translated into German by J. Templ.
> >
> > Shortly after Wirth's retirement in April this year. I don't know if
> > this was done by AWL in arrangement with ACM, but I think this is
> > abashing (don't know if this is the correct english word, I'm not a
> > native speaker) since Wirth has done pioneering work, which was
> > accomplished by several organizations (see the inlcuded selected list
> > of honors, taken from: http://www.inf.ethz.ch/~wirth/):
> >
> >
> > Selected Honours
> >
> > ACM, A. M. Turing Award (1984)
> > IEEE Computer Society, Computer Pioneer Award (1988)
> > IBM Europe Science and Technology Prize 1988 (1989)
> > Member, Swiss Academy of Engineering, 1992
> > Foreign Associate, US Academy of Engieering, 1994
> > Orden Pour le merite, 1996.
> > Honorary Doctorates:
> > University of York, England, 1978
> > Ecole Polytechnique Federale, Lausanne, Switzerland, 1978
> > Laval University, Quebec, Canada, 1987
> > Johannes Kepler Universitaet Linz, Austria, 1993
> > University of Novosibirsk, Russia, 1996
> > The Open University, England, 1997
> > University of Pretoria, South Africa, 1998
> >
> >
> > Now my question: Who is responsible at ACM for such a decision>
> > (if the series was dropped by AWL in arrangement with ACM), or
> > how can this step be taken back, if it is in the interest of
> > ACM to keep this series.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for your advise
> > --
> > Bernhard Treutwein Tel. +49-89-5996-642, Fax -615
> > Institut f. Med. Psychologie Ludwig-Maximilians-Universitaet
> > bernhard{([at]})nowhere.xy> > -------------------------------- ---------------------------
> > C is its own virus
>
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