Cuno:

Thanks for the explanation.
It is clear now.
Looking forward for BB 1.6

Best regards,

Federico

----- Original Message ----
From: "Oberon microsystems AG, Tech-Support" <support@oberon.ch>
To: BlackBox Mailing List <blackbox@oberon.ch>
Sent: Friday, June 1, 2007 10:24:37 AM
Subject: [BlackBox] - BlackBox 2.0 beta 08 patch 01

Dear Federico,

you are right, the situation is confusing. Let me try to explain. But
first I have to go back to the time when we released BlackBox (1.5) as
open source and give a bit of background.

At the time, we knew that we will not have the resources to further
develop BlackBox in a way that would include many feature wishes of the
community. We only could cater to our immediate needs - which stem from
the projects that we do for our customers. Basically, either a change is
paid for by a customer or one of our employees is willing to invest his
spare time to do it. Here my sincerest thanks to them, *much* was
actually done on that basis!

We decided to publish BlackBox as open source, so that other people can
better understand it and possibly create improvements that we could not.
Our policy has been clear, and remains so: It is up to the community to
organize any such projects, we can neither manage them, host the
software, nor provide quality assurance services, nor endorse them in
any way. We may or may not occasionally publish new versions of BlackBox
ourselves, like BlackBox 1.6, but there will be no guarantees, no road
map, no deadlines.

In the case we *do* publish a new release, our main emphasis is not on
new features, but on making the product even more robust and reliable
and maintainable. In that sense, we intend BlackBox 1.6 to become the
best BlackBox so far, even though BlackBox always had a reputation for
being extremely solid and stable. We simply love to base projects on a
solid technical foundation that we understand in-depth.

BlackBox 1.6 is nearly completed, although we underestimated the amount
of work it takes; we included quite a few bug fixes that have been
reported to us earlier. Nevertheless, we had to prioritize the inputs
and were not able to take up all of them. The final release 1.6 will
probably appear within the next couple of months.

As for completely separate derivatives of BlackBox like "BlackBox 2.0",
where we are not involved in any way, it is up to the community to
decide who is interested in using such a fork. There are always pros and
cons to a fork: On the one hand, it was the purpose of going open source
to enable such developments. On the other hand, it produces confusion
and may split up the community into smaller ones.

To make things less confusion, we urge anyone with a BlackBox derivative
to give it a clearly distinct name, which does not imply any kind of
endorsement by Oberon microsystems (which is prohibited by our open
source license anyway), and to provide a separate mailing list for
discussions of that software. This should greatly reduce the potential
for confusion.

In summary, BlackBox 2.0 *for us* is clearly not a successor to BlackBox
1.x, we have no intention of adopting the experiments done for that
variant.

I hope this clears things up a bit?

With best regards

Cuno Pfister

Oberon microsystems, Inc. 

________________________________

    From: blackbox@oberon.ch [mailto:blackbox@oberon.ch] On Behalf
Of federico pardo
    Sent: Freitag, 1. Juni 2007 06:15
    To: Blackbox
    Subject: [BlackBox] - BlackBox 2.0 beta 08 patch 01

    Please help me to understand.
    We had in the past BB 1.5 (not too long ago)
    Then BB 1.6 beta appeared and almost at the same time BB 2.0
beta.
    As suggested before 2.0 appeared 1.6 will soon become more
stable, so you do not have to change too fast.
    Now 2.0 is out. 
    What is the path I do need to go, keep 1.5 for another while,
install 1.6 beta or 2.0 beta.
    When beta will become the official one, just approximate date?
That might help to decide.
    Please if someone can help me to decide.
    Thanks a lot.
    
    Regards,
    
    Federico Pardo

    ----- Original Message ----
    From: Marco Ciot <marco@ciot.org>
    To: BlackBox Mailing List <blackbox@oberon.ch>
    Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 10:09:01 AM
    Subject: [BlackBox] - BlackBox 2.0 beta 08 patch 01

    Dear All
    (who already have downloaded BB 2.0 beta 08)
    
    I noticed that the Tools/Mod/FileBrowser.odc source file was an
old one.
    Since I refer to this file in the text on the web, I'd rather
rectify 
    this mistake immediately.
    (I've already changed the downloadable zip to BB20beta0801.zip)
    For the fast ones the single module source file is attached and
can 
    simply be overwritten in the 20inc/Tools/Mod directory.
    
    Regards
    Marco

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