Re: [BLACKBOX] Still kicking the BlackBox tires. A question for the group about annoyances.

From: [at]} <Robert>
Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2012 15:10:06 +0000

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Sometimes I write code like

k := 0
WHILE k <= kMax DO
   Process (k);
   INC (k)
END;

Sometimes, however, I forget the INC and get caught in an infinite loop,
which requires using the Windows task manager to kill BlackBox and loose my
recent edits - thus the annoyance.

The User-Man says "An endless loop can be interrupted by pressing ctrl-break
(Windows) / command-option-. (Mac OS)."

I seem to remember/imagine that this worked usually in Windows 95, often in
Windows NT - provided the loop wasn't hammering the Log, but never in
Windows XP.

This has been discussed a few times on this forum, with various solutions proposed.

But I don't have a solution (maybe I was asleep and missed a good one?).


Cheers

Robert


On 10/03/2012 02:43, Lon Williamson wrote:
> Having groveled about a bit more with Blackbox, I'm still convinced it's a thing
> worth studying more. I have run into no killer annoyances, but have made a
> list of things I'd like to see tweaked or enhanced.
>
> Rather than list those now, I'd like to ask the much more experienced
> (essentially everyone else on this list, unless I miss my guess)
> what things annoy you during development that you've not found relatively
> easy solutions to.
>
> I've read DragonCity, so there's one source of problems, but would like to hear
> of others. The email archive stuff posted a while back was by no
> means complete;
> I was reading very early stuff going back to the 1990s.
>
> I'm thinking of doing a projet to remedy at least one annoyance as a way of
> learning more than "Hello Wolrd" tied to widgets.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Lon
>
>
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