- Half Baked

From: Douglas G. Danforth <"Douglas>
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 18:38:02 -0500

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Jurgen,

Using Java as the base is a good idea, however,
I am now old as the hills and no longer interested
in doing "work" to make things nice. That is when
I see the following in the gpcp documentation I
cringe

"Make sure that \gpcp\bin is on the executable path.
 From the command line, type
 > cprun gpcp hello.cp"

"From the command line". This means one needs to drop
into DOS in order to run gpcp. No thank you. I've spent
too many years playing around down there. Don't like it.
Even if I put a execute command into BlackBox that runs
a DOS program it will still produce a black (or blue) window
for DOS. Again, no thank you.

I suppose it might be possible to hide all of that so that one simply
writes all Component Pascal code in the BlackBox environment
and then magically runs the gpcp translator to generate Java byte codes
but then what libraries, what would be the generated interface,
what is the GUI?

I'm even less enamored in using .NET since that is a ton of baggage
that assumes a Web interaction in which I am not very interested.
I think moving programs from one local machine to a global web
is a bad idea. Execution of global code in protected local memory
is fine (if such a creature exists) but not execution of my code on
someone else's machine.

Take these comments with a grain of salt since I am out of the loop
when it comes to web development.

-Doug


Jürgen Rolshoven wrote:
> Douglas G. Danforth schrieb:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> BlackBox runs under windows.
>> Oberon V4 runs under a wide variety of operating systems.
>> Why not interface BlackBox to Oberon V4?
>>
>> Pro: Extends BlackBox availability
>> Con: Look and feel of what OS?
>>
>> Comments?
>>
>> -Doug Danforth
>>
>> --- BlackBox
>> --- send subject HELP or UNSUBSCRIBE to blackbox{([at]})nowhere.xy
>>
> Hi,
> why not gpcp?
> Jürgen
>
> --- BlackBox
> --- send subject HELP or UNSUBSCRIBE to blackbox{([at]})nowhere.xy
>
>

--- BlackBox
--- send subject HELP or UNSUBSCRIBE to blackbox{([at]})nowhere.xy


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