- Supporting BlackBox

From: Douglas G. Danforth <"Douglas>
Date: Thu, 11 May 2006 15:11:02 -0400

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Marco,
Your comments are very interesting!

Could you (without compromising your clients) tell us the type of
software for which they have been willing to pay?
What industries? E.g. finance, medical, insurance, web sites, ...?

-Doug Danforth


Marco Ciot wrote:
> Hi everybody
>
> The existance of this community is quite new to me, but not so is Oberon
> Microsystems and BlackBox Component Builder.
> As a software engineer I have productively delivered software based on
> BlackBox during the past 10 years. In total I have earned with my
> programming under BlackBox quite some more than $100'000.- ;)
> If I estimate now, that I was 20% faster due to the convenience of the
> system, I would conclude that the BlackBox advantage is at least worth
> $20'000.- to me.
> At the same time I had to make extensions to the BlackBox library (i.e. an
> Oracle subsystem (not currently listed in the BB-Subsystem-Registry)). Had
> these extensions already existed I might have been even 50% faster.
>
> Assuming there are other productive developpers like me, I guess there is a
> huge potential for earning money through maintaining and extending BlackBox.
> But isn't this potential there in the IT world in general?
> If developpers would cooperate better, IT wouldn't cost that much.
> The conclusion is: maybe only 10% of the currently productively working
> programmers would satisfy the global demand for IT solutions.
> But this only leads into philosophical nirvana...
>
> I will keep programming under BlackBox as long as I have customers who are
> buying software from me that I can implement using BlackBox.
>
> Currently I am in a diffucult financial situation and have only little paid
> tasks, so I am extending/improving BlackBox here and there during my "free"
> time.
> But the first request I will get from a customer asking for my paid services
> not related toward BB will keep me from doing so...
>
> My conclusion:
> Bring me customers, whom you can convince that software based on BlackBox is
> a great thing, and I myself will keep BlackBox alive, FOR FREE!
>
> Sincerly,
> Marco Ciot
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: blackbox{([at]})nowhere.xy
> G. Danforth
> Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2006 03:48
> To: BlackBox Mailing List
> Subject: [BlackBox] - [BlackBox] Supporting BlackBox
>
>
> Maksimiuk Darek wrote:
>
>> Dear All,
>> Maybe our small community can support some of the BlackBox activities at

>>
> Oberon Microsystem by using a magic
>
>> button with "PayPal" text in it? If, of course, OM can put such a visual

>>
> gadget on their
>
>> web page.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Darek
>>

>>
> I actually agree with this sentiment. Oberon and its descendant
> BlackBox/Component Pascal has (in my opinion) failed in marketing its
> products. Previously I was informed by OuS that it would talk about
> $100,000 to support a port of BlackBox to Unix. I have wondered over
> the years whether a fund could have been created such that donations
> into it would eventually meet that goal (and any other worthwhile goal).
>
> When it comes to politics here in the US of A it is amazing to see how
> quickly $100K, $300K, or $500K can be raised. But then the community to
> which the funds are requested is on the order of 1 million souls. But
> surely we could at least try and emulate the process?
>
> I'm willing to kick in some funds if the project is well stated and well
> organized.
>
> -Doug Danforth
>
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