- CP to NET: A caveat

From: CFB Software <"CFB>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 16:16:12 +0930

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: blackbox{([at]})nowhere.xy
> Behalf Of Wojtek Skulski
>
> After reading this paragraph I revisited the GrViews and read
> the procedures which handle user interactions. Please have a look.

Thank you for taking the time I'm looking at it right now and my eyes are
glazing over :-)

> It starts with the comment (* Message handling *). It all
> looks pretty bloody. I am shaking my head that I developed
> such a thing. I still have an archive somewhere with all the
> e-mails from Dominik Gruntz, Wolfgang Weck, and Cuno Pfister,
> who all helped me enormously. What is the lesson?
> Not sure. I was much less experienced back then. The
> timestamp in the code says 2001.
>

It all looks pretty hairy to me and I have been writing software
professionally at all levels from assembly language to 4GLs for thirty
years. How is a newbie ever going to get to understand any of this? In
contrast, this sort of thing could be done by a complete novice with less
than a day's guidance in Delphi, VB or Visual Studio.

>
> But you are saying you want the table to fill the entire form?
> This is interesting. If the entire form is filled, then what
> is it needed for?
>

Only the 'entire' form that is not occupied by menus, buttons etc. in the
same way that if you open an Excel Spreadsheet, the number of columns and
rows visible increases when you increase the size of the window. Another
example is Microsoft Outlook which has a left hand area for navigation and a
right hand area for the table - both separately resizable.

This sort of thing is trivial to do in Delphi as you can use 'Panels' to
subdivide your form into separate working areas. You could put the table on
an automatically resizing panel, and have a couple of buttons on another
fixed sized panel anchored to the bottom of the form or the right / left or
top of the form if you prefer. 'Splitter' bars can be used to adjust the
relative sizes of the panels. If you want to go beyond that there are
'frames' but I haven't had to use them as yet. All of this is created in the
'forms designer' - no code has to be written.

If you don't have access to such an IDE but want to try it for yourself,
Microsoft Visual C# Express is available for zero cost:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/visualcsharp/

They are also going for the youngsters:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/coding4fun/

Unfortunately by giving all of this away for free, Microsoft have made it
very difficult for others to compete. Borland (Delphi) for example is
getting out of the IDE market altogether and is currently looking a buyer
for its complete IDE / Developer tool business.

>
> If you dig in the docu of Properties somewhere in the
> vicinity of these paragraphs then maybe you will find some
> more inspiration.
>

OK - I abandoned the table application a long time ago, but I have got an
almost complete BlackBox AutoCAD slide viewer. That got shelved when I hit
the resizing brick wall. When I revisit that I'll have a real good look at
your code.

>
> > Calling a function written in a different language (and
> different dll)
> > is only fractionally more difficult than calling one in the same

> > language when you are in the .NET environment.
>
> This is a biggie. But it works between .NET languages, does
> it not. How about legacy DLLs that were not developed under .NET?
>

I haven't tried it but it can be done. The magic word is 'interop'. I get
the impression that you have to wrap the legacy code in a COM wrapper to be
able to access it in .NET

I guess I am lucky in that I haven't got many millions of lines of legacy
code or need highly-specialised application-specific libaries (apart from
the WAV recording / sound processing stuff) that I have to maintain. All the
Win32 apps I have written can stay in Win32 - it's going to be around for
another ten years at least.

However, I always keep .NET in mind when writing something completely new.
If it was a web-based app, not a desktop one then it would be .NET for sure.
Some of my own code I've already translated to CP using the Pascal to Oberon
translator, but most legacy code I would need to reuse would be general
purpose 3rd party libraries. The equivalent functionality most likely is
already available in the .NET framework or if not, is already freely
available from 3rd parties.

Chris Burrows
CFB Software
http://www.cfbsoftware.com/gpcp

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