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From: Douglas G. Danforth <"Douglas>
Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:22:19 -0400

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Thanks Alexander,
I think you are doing good work!

I'm a scientist not a systems administrator and every time I think that
I have time to help in such a process I back off but cause this is not my
inclination or desire even though it is badly needed.

Hmm, let's see $24,000/year for a systems administrator divided by the
size of the Oberon community of ?? 100 max ?? equals $240/year
($20/month) per person to keep BlackBox up and running.

Do we have 100 people who are reading this list and actively using
BlackBox?

-Doug

Alexander Iljin wrote:
> Hello, Douglas!
>
> DGD> Question for the community.
> DGD> With all of these fixes happening, some of which you may have
> DGD> installed, how do we keep track of the "official version" of
> DGD> Blackbox or more correctly which of the patches should be
> DGD> incorporated into a BlackBox1.5.1 and has OuS agreed to any such
> DGD> process and maintainance?
>
> I see two questions here. 1) Which patches should, and which sould
> NOT be incorporated into next BB release. 2) Will OM ever do that
> incorporation and releasing.
>
> In answer to the first question, I believe that all my patches
> require some sort of educated approval from the BB developers. I
> didn't get any response of that kind yet, except for when they said
> they are far too busy with other projects.
>
> From my side I:
> a) agree to give away rights for redistribution of my patches to OM
> or anyone else;
> b) ready to give anyone (including OM) all patched files with
> descriptions of problems and solutions.
> In fact, I'm going to create come sort of a "service pack" and make
> it available for free download. It would ease the problem of
> tracking patches as they emerge and develop in this mail list.
>
> Concerning the second question, I think OM did not have time yet to
> even think about that. There is too small amount of fixes to
> consider. Anyway, no one put me in charge of such activity, and I
> don't even know if a new BB release is planned.
>
> That's all I know. I'd like to hear from OM about all this.
>
> ---=====---
> Alexander
>
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>
>
>

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