RE: CP vs C++

From: Wijck, Bart van <"Wijck,>
Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 09:44:42 +0100

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Hi Markus, Fyodor and others,

On this subject. I am gathering arguments for the chapter "Why BlackBox" of
the proposed new guide. I echo the fast compilation times and the strict and
safe design of the language and the archtitecture. I have experience with
the older languages Fortran, Pl1, Cobol etc., but apart from Turbo Pascal
and Modula-2 (and CP)I lack hanbds-on experience with the more modern
languages like Java, C++, C#, C, VB etc.

If I look at the modern development environments around these languages,
they appear quite dazzling (e.g. Delphi, MS Visual Studio). Quick
development, fast compilation, partial code generation etc. It appears that
you can do lots of things more easily than in BB.
It looks to my less experienced eye that CP still holds the edge in terms of
modularity of the language, export rules etc. Simpler but more elegant and
well balanced design. And the others are more complex, overblown with
whistles and bells.

I'd like to know if I'm near the mark here, or if you can be more specific
(or perhaps quite other arguments) about your assertions.

Particularly I am interested to turn the argument somewhat. What would you
say to someone who's into Java or VB (e.g. in the case of Java the enormous
complexity of the J2EE platform).

Regards,

Bart





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From: DrBautsch{([at]})nowhere.xy
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 9:11 AM
To: fyodor.tkachov{([at]})nowhere.xy
Cc: blackbox{([at]})nowhere.xy
Subject: Re: CP vs C++


Dear Fyodor !

Thanks for this statement !

As I am a physicist, too, I understand very well what you have done and I
can confirm every letter you wrote from my own experience.

I can look onto more than two decades of software development now and I know
many programming languages including C, Java, Modula, Pascal and even
FORTRAN.

The main issue in my sight is the very short developmental period with CP
(even without debugger !). By far I don't know another system than CP, which
is capable to produce such fast and at the same time safe code.

This is mainly related to the very short compilation times and the very
strict and therefore safe architecture of CP.

I hope that Oberon Microsystems will foster this product and let many
programmers produce jewels of software also in the future.

Best regards from Berlin

Dr. Markus Bautsch

Bautsch & König Parntership, Software Engineers



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