RE: A strategy for BlackBox

From: Hof, Philipp <"Hof,>
Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 11:13:52 +1300

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Hi Bart,

>The second would be nice if we wanted to go the .NET road. Do we?
>Technically nice, but politically?
My thinking is rather opportunistic: leverage what is on the (free)
freeway:)
Politically: Windows is the mainstream OS if we like it or not. Mono
http://www.go-mono.com/ is a Linux project for .Net and the FreeBSD one is
done my Microsoft:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=3a1c93fa-7462-47d0-
8e56-8dd34c6292f0&displaylang=en

I don't know if there are any good since I gathered experience with .NET and
C# only.

In addition there are free Component Pascal compilers for the .Net framework
and JVM.
http://www.citi.qut.edu.au/research/plas/projects/cp_files/index.jsp

My simple thoughts therefore: Why not re-write the low-level modules of
Blackbox and make it work on those existing technologies? Having something
portable between JVM and .Net would certainly be worthwhile.

The difficult part of learning a new programming environment is not the
language comprising of a few keywords but the huge and complicated
collection of libraries interacting with each other.

Of course we all know, the world were a better place if everybody would
program in Oberon:)
 
Regards,
Philipp
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