Re: Translators

From: Fyodor Tkachov <"Fyodor>
Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 19:54:26 +0100

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Wojtek, being a theorist myself, and an author of some well-quoted corrections through fifth order,
I'd very much like to quote this story:

> I vividly remember debugging a large theoretical code ..
..
> The particular bugs that I discovered were in second-order corrections ..

Please let me know if you'd like your name to be mentioned.
(As an experimentalist you probably dont care.)

> High Energy Physics is full of folklore stories concerning ZEBRA and other software based on ZEBRA,
such as Physics Analysis Workstation (PAW).

I agree with you that a ZEBRA/PAW cannot be just ported.

But the rationale for the Fortran-to-CP translator was partly that there is a number of senior (therefore influential) professors who stick to Fortran, usually with a sense of guilt.
They would have personal libraries of code (the quality need not be discussed...).

A message directed at them and offering them an upgrade path to "modern world",
would be much strengthened by mere existence of such a project.

Cheers
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